Author Topic: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)  (Read 3414 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TopAce

  • Stalwart contributor
  • 212
  • FREDder, FSWiki editor, and tester
I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)


I made some random background bitmaps (in red and blue colors) and I wanted to use them in the final release of Descendants of Sol, but as I browsed through the Celebration of FreeSpace thread and the Wiki's featured screenshots, I realized everyone's using Lightspeed's nebulae (yes, they're excellent). So I figured I would eventually switch to LS's nebulae at some point.

However, I haven't received much feedback about the nebula pack that I made. There was one guy at ModDB who said "it looked weird," and nothing else. I figured I would request your input, too.
My community contributions - Get my campaigns from here.

I already announced my retirement twice, yet here I am. If I bring up that topic again, don't believe a word.

 

Offline Nyctaeus

  • The Slavic Engineer
  • 212
  • 800k tris ships achieved!
    • Exile
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
I don't like it. Too smudgy and unshapely. Looks like a retail FS2 nebulas.
Exile | Shadow Genesis | Inferno | Series Resurrecta  | DA Profile | P3D Profile

Proud owner of NyctiShipyards. Remember - Nyx will fix it!

All of my assets including models, textures, skyboxes, effects may be used under standard CC BY-NC 4.0 license.

 

Offline Shade

  • 211
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
I'd say it needs to fade out more at the edges as it seems to cut off rather suddenly, and the central areas need to be brighter and probably more yellow-ish than they are now to properly convey that those are in fact really dense star clusters.
Report FS_Open bugs with Mantis  |  Find the latest FS_Open builds Here  |  Interested in FRED? Check out the Wiki's FRED Portal | Diaspora: Website / Forums
"Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh ****ing great. 2200 references to entry->index and no idea which is the one that ****ed up" - Karajorma
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct." - Niels Bohr
<Cobra|> You play this mission too intelligently.

 
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
It's hard to tell without more screenshots, but from that one the nebula does look weird. I'd call it blobby, and fractal-y. Like you took one big nebula and rotated/scaled it to make all the nebulous details. But what do I know.

 

Offline Qent

  • 29
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
It reminds me of retail too, but in a good way. :nervous:

 

Offline Shivan Hunter

  • 210
  • FRED needs lambdas!
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
just going by that one screenshot, I'd say you're varying the size too much. If you've got nebulae with noticeably similar features, you should try to keep the bitmaps the same size (that is, don't vary by more than ~20%). Thing is, I can tell by looking at the screenshot that those are four seperate bitmaps, and I can differentiate them- I shouldn't be able to. The two on the bottom are alright, since they seem to be roughly the same size.

About the nebulae themselves- can't say I don't like them. Maybe you should make them a bit lighter in the middle, maybe give it some kind of effect so it looks like a 3d cloud.

Lightspeed's nebulae are great, but they shouldn't be the only ones people use. Look at the Earth Defense ones for example (at least, I think they're the ones using fractals)- those are really good.

 
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
What Sivan Hunter just said.
Yes! That's what I meant.

 

Offline TopAce

  • Stalwart contributor
  • 212
  • FREDder, FSWiki editor, and tester
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
Quote
Lightspeed's nebulae are great, but they shouldn't be the only ones people use. Look at the Earth Defense ones for example (at least, I think they're the ones using fractals)- those are really good.

That's why I drew these nebulae.
My community contributions - Get my campaigns from here.

I already announced my retirement twice, yet here I am. If I bring up that topic again, don't believe a word.

 

Offline Rodo

  • Custom tittle
  • 212
  • stargazer
    • Steam
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
needs sharpness, might work if you mix with another layer with some fire or fractal effects.
el hombre vicio...

 

Offline Whitelight

  • 29
  • Thing, man like
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
(1) It is different, but its hard to make a good assumption off just one picture.

(2) Are all of them of the same variety, shape?

Looking at it from the minds eye, it does look sweet.  :D
But you must also have to know, that i`m easy to please. 
Simpicity of character is the natural resualt of profound thought

 

Offline TopAce

  • Stalwart contributor
  • 212
  • FREDder, FSWiki editor, and tester
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
Quote
(2) Are all of them of the same variety, shape?

There are 9 bitmaps altogether. I don't know how many of them are in the picture. They're the same size (512x512), but the mission varies its scale from 3:3 till 5:5.
My community contributions - Get my campaigns from here.

I already announced my retirement twice, yet here I am. If I bring up that topic again, don't believe a word.

 

Offline Aardwolf

  • 211
  • Posts: 16,384
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
I don't know how you did it, but you've somehow managed to be both "too noisy" and "too fuzzy" at the same time. Just IMHO.

 

Offline Cobra

  • 212
  • Snake on a Cain
    • Skype
    • Steam
    • Twitter
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
I like it.
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 

Offline Sushi

  • Art Critic
  • 211
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
They need some work, IMO, but not so much that they aren't worth keeping. The ones on the bottom definitely look better than the ones on the top.


 

Offline Spoon

  • 212
  • ヾ(´︶`♡)ノ
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
It kinda looks like they are in the foreground instead of the background, like some giant plant like monster attempting to grab the levy/fenrir out of the sky... erh... space... something.
The one in the right bottom corner looks the best out of the bunch imo
Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

  

Offline Wobble73

  • 210
  • Reality is for people with no imagination
    • Steam
Re: I need your honest opinion about some background bitmaps (nebula)
A foreground, the outer edges of a more denser nebula. That's how I'd see it, if you could get wisps of cloud against fighters and bigger ships.
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
 
Member of the Scooby Doo Fanclub. And we're not talking a cartoon dog here people!!

 You would be well adviced to question the wisdom of older forumites, we all have our preferences and perversions