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Scary or not?

Give me a pillow to hide behind...
9 (25%)
Lights down, surround sound up, hit me!
27 (75%)

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Voting closed: January 04, 2003, 05:27:27 am

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Offline wEvil

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but it is a good movie...I quite liked the storyline concepts and the general visual style was amazing.

Out of interest what did they give SW2:AotC?

 

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Sheesh, do I have to do everything for you?

The special effects were the only remarkable thing about Event Horizon. The plot was utterly unoriginal, consisting primarily of a mishmash of Hellraiser and The Shining, with bits of Dead Calm  and any random "trapped with a homicidal maniac" movie. Even the ship "Event Horizon" was unoriginal, being basically a goth version of the "Discovery" from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

On the plus side, it gave us a lot of funny reviews mostly dedicated to picking out all the flaws and implausibilities in the story.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Flaws and implausibilities? In a movie set in the orbit of Neptune, aboard a space ship that had returned from Hell with some sort of presence? Nah...

Unoriginal plot? Fair enough. But it does the job. Unoriginal ship design? Meh... it's still sexy. Aldo did an EV based model a while back... we didn't say it was unoriginal, we told him it looked cool because that was the most important thing about it :nod:

 

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Good gods, I hate to agree with ZylonBane, but damn. You have to try hard to make a movie that sucked worse than Event Horizon. The special effects weren't even that good (what happened the CG->Film integration? I fell off the sofa laughing at how unrealistic it looked).

The highpoint of EH was the fact that it ended.
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well good for you - i fell of the chair laughing at SW:AotC and there were even quite a few horrible peices of CG in LOTR2.

unfortunately most of you seem to be so spoilt you can't actually appreciate the good aspects of most films - nor do many of you have a clue about how hard it is to actually make a good movie.

Now, its very hard to come up with an origional idea these days - as evidenced by the mindnumbing amount of soap opera directed "entertainment" floating around the airwaves - and you just said yourself its a fusion of styles, and I think it does that very well.  You didnt like it, fair enough - but that doesnt automatically make it a terrible film.

 

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You have to try hard to make a movie that sucked worse than Event Horizon.


I disagree - I don't think they tried very hard at all with Battlefield: Earth, and it is pretty much The Epitome of Suckiness. :ick
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I disagree - I don't think they tried very hard at all with Battlefield: Earth, and it is pretty much The Epitome of Suckiness. :ick


But... I loved Battlefield: Earth!!

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Now, its very hard to come up with an origional idea these days [...] and I think it does that very well.
That's just it... it didn't do it well. The plot was an aimless mess. The characters behaved illogically and stupidly. ("Hey, I think I'll stick my hand in the hyperdrive!")
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well good for you - i fell of the chair laughing at SW:AotC and there were even quite a few horrible peices of CG in LOTR2.

SW:AotC was worth laughing at indeed.  LotR had a couple of bad CGI->Film integrations, but lets face it: its a story flick, not a CG flick. The story carries the film, and the CG is mostly irrelevant.

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unfortunately most of you seem to be so spoilt you can't actually appreciate the good aspects of most films - nor do many of you have a clue about how hard it is to actually make a good movie.

Its one thing to appreciate how hard it is to make a good movie, and quite another to look at garbage like Event Horizon and actually delude one's self that it is a good movie. I haven't the foggiest clue what exactly I'm supposed to be spoiled by, unless you're referring to the sudden proliferation of incredible "art" from Hollywood? Excuse me whilst I vomit.

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Now, its very hard to come up with an origional idea these days - as evidenced by the mindnumbing amount of soap opera directed "entertainment" floating around the airwaves - and you just said yourself its a fusion of styles, and I think it does that very well.  You didnt like it, fair enough - but that doesnt automatically make it a terrible film.

Event Horizon was a bad film on its own merits. The laundry list of incredibly bad decisions that led to this blasphemy being foisted on the viewing public is long, but the hilights are as follows:

Bad writing
Bad acting
Bad direction
Bad musical score
Bad effects integration
Bad pacing
Bad internal consistency
Bad idea

Please, defend something worthy of your effort.
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Bad writing
Bad acting
Bad direction
Bad musical score
Bad effects integration
Bad pacing
Bad internal consistency
Bad idea

Please, defend something worthy of your effort.


The plot was OK...not the best, but it was ok.

Acting was reasonable, please give specific examples

Direction was excellelent IMO

Musical score went well with the plot, what more can you ask for?

Effects integration was as good as the technology allowed - i've seen far worse contemporary examples

Pacing?  If you ask me that goes hand-in-hand with direction, see above

Consistency leaft a little to be desired

Bad idea?  subjective.

 

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Ok, that had to be said. By the way, I lied.


Thank goodness. :D

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Thank goodness. :D

Has anyone mentioned Mission To Mars yet?


Didn't watch it. I was sufficiently traumatized by Red Planet. :D
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Didn't watch it. I was sufficiently traumatized by Red Planet. :D


I could say "Worst. Ending. EVAR.", but I don't think that would quite do MtM the justice it really deserves. ;)
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Didn't watch it. I was sufficiently traumatized by Red Planet. :D


Heh - I was the other way around - saw MtM, but not RP.
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I saw 007 while I was away on my holiday for the past few weeks. It's funny and quite good. There were some quite good scenes though. In the beginning when Bond walks over to that guy that carried "the ice", they capture him and Bond takes his sun glasses and gives him a weird smile. And that line: Hey boss, he broke your record!

 

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They're showing Bond movies every week here in Sydney. I just realised; Scaramanga (The Man With The Golden Gun) is Saruman (Christopher Lee)!! :D

Well, it made me laugh. ;)
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Heh - I was the other way around - saw MtM, but not RP.


same here. Btw, Steak ( rah, long time didn't call you that way :D ), you think MTM ending is bad? There's oh so much worse ( armageddon, etc ) :p
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same here. Btw, Steak ( rah, long time didn't call you that way :D ), you think MTM ending is bad? There's oh so much worse ( armageddon, etc ) :p


Ohhhh, Armageddon. :lol: I think I walked out of that and went to play FS2 instead (I was watching it on TV... bad decision). :D
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I could say "Worst. Ending. EVAR.", but I don't think that would quite do MtM the justice it really deserves. ;)


Bah, now I have to watch it. I love bad endings. :D
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Bah, now I have to watch it. I love bad endings. :D


:lol:

Why don't you pick up Street Fighter, while you're at it? :D
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