[01010]

Originally posted by Stealth
but anyway, the bottom line is i'm saying don't fight unless you absolutely have to to defend yourself... these guys all say "fight, because even if you lose you'll be respected"...

...yeah right

Which I totally respect and for the most part agree too. I'm just saying that there does come a point where enough is enough and if every alternative has been exhausted you have to stand up for yourself.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by 01010


Odd, I didn't see that posted.

Stealth, yes, like I said, it's happened like three maybe four times in my life. I maintain that I'm a total pacifist and I will not fight, I agree with a lot of what you say but not all of it because sometimes you can't let yourself be a target.
you can always be a target... if you fight then you do what they want you to do, and you lower yourself down to their level...
Also, British culture is violent just not in a trigger happy, ghetto style way. You wouldn't believe the amount of times I've seen people starting fights for no reason other than the fact that they are pricks plain and simple.
oh please dude!  heheheheheh that's funny. hehe.
that happens all over the world in most public high-schools dude, don't kid yourself.  hehehehehe that's hilarious.  

... no, British culture is not violent

Most of the problem stems from "lad" culture which is something uniquely British which I guess is why you don't really understand it. Personally I don't really understand it myself
it happens all over the world, not just in Britain... did you know more fights occur in the US in junior high (grade 6-8) than in high school (grade 9-12)?  it's something to do with hormones, and we all know that hormones aren't unique to Britain, they're all over the world

[Stealth]

Originally posted by StrykeIX
[whacks Stealth on his katana hand, bludgeons him]

Call it reflexes.
ow

And no, that's not what we said at all, and you know it. If you don't, you haven't been reading, you've been talking out your ass for the sheer joy of reading your own text. We also didn't "urge everyone to fight everyone else" or anything of the sort.

yeah you did, you all saythat if they don't leave kasper alone his only alternative is to fight them, and that once he beats their leaders they'll all back down and he'll walk away the hero

yeah, that is pretty much what you've said, the main idea.

yeah, i like reading my own text


EDIT:  going to get dinner... not going to be back on (probably) tonight, cause i got a meeting, and then essays to write, and then bed.  see you tomorrow, peace!

[Knight Templar]

Stealth, dude, stop being such a dumb ****.


The "**** you" picture does not include me with a beanie.

I've had no beanie since christmas. Those pictures were before christmas

Listen to people when the post, and stop being a dumb ****. You don't know everything. Never did I say "fighting is the only way out" only that if he is cornered and stands a chance, he should.

As said, having lived in to different locations does not make you an expert on anything. I've lived in the Ghetto for 5 years of my life, and I've lived in the semi ghetto for 9. As said, I don't know everything, but I know that if you get cornered by 6 mexicans with beer bottles and knives, they'll have their way with you wether you want to talk it out or not.

Now obviously he is from Germany, where the mexican percentile is quite lower i'd imagine, but race isn't really the key card. The point is, the Kid should [glow=red]BUY A DAMN BACK PACK AND STOP *****ING. [/glow]

Oh and as for the sports caste system, that's entirely true :nods:

Top would be American Football and the bottom would be Swimming/Badmitton

[Stryke 9]

Guess you weren't reading at all then. Once it got into HOW the fighting was to be done, if it was necessary, I contributed my own observations. Before then I had repeatedly emphasized that, unless you're pretty strong and fast, fighting isn't a smart move. But of course you missed that little detail, since you were too busy blowing hot air about pacifism and running away whenever you get attacked unless they've broken your legs or tied your shoelaces together in advance so you can't escape.

[01010]

Originally posted by Stealth
oh please dude! heheheheheh that's funny. hehe.
that happens all over the world in most public high-schools dude, don't kid yourself. hehehehehe that's hilarious.

... no, British culture is not violent

I'm not talking about schools, I've been out of school three years. I mean just walking down the street.

I'd say that you couldn't possibly be a decent judge of a culture you know nothing about. Vice versa on my part, however, the "lad" culture I refer too isn't 13-18 year olds, it's maturer people 20+ that should technically have their hormones under control.

I have this huge posting about British culture and violence but I'm tired. Maybe tomorrow.

Nice discussion though

[01010]

Originally posted by StrykeIX
Guess you weren't reading at all then. Once it got into HOW the fighting was to be done, if it was necessary, I contributed my own observations. Before then I had repeatedly emphasized that, unless you're pretty strong and fast, fighting isn't a smart move. But of course you missed that little detail, since you were too busy blowing hot air about pacifism and running away whenever you get attacked unless they've broken your legs or tied your shoelaces together in advance so you can't escape.

[Darkage]

I have a problem controling my temper. I can snap prety fast especialy when i am in a ****ed up mood. My last fight was a year ago when some one insulted my mother realy bad, broke his arm and his nose and i am not realy strong only when i snap otherwise i walk a big circle around any fights. I normaly try to avoid fights and talk them until they are emberased in front of a whole group. I have learned to control my temper in a time span of a few years. But if you realy want me to attack you say something about my famely and i snap like a twig in such a way i don't know what i am doing anymore other then beating the crap out of the person. Other then that i am realy easy going and quit guy.

[Stealth]

Stryke: don't change your story... i've stuck to my one sentence this whole topic: "violence isn't going to work"... whether you like it or not, that's what i think.

Knight Templar:  see next post

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Stealth, dude, stop being such a dumb ****.


The "**** you" picture does not include me with a beanie.
no, but the other 6 or 7 picures you do
I've had no beanie since christmas. Those pictures were before christmas
i never said they weren't
Listen to people when the post, and stop being a dumb ****. You don't know everything. Never did I say "fighting is the only way out" only that if he is cornered and stands a chance, he should.
then what are we arguing about?  for i said the exact same thing:  he shouldn't fight unless he has no other alternative
As said, having lived in to different locations does not make you an expert on anything. never said it did, i was just saying to Zeronet that just because he lives in Britain doesn't mean he's living in a uber-violent culture... and that school (especially those in junior high) kids are always getting in fights, usually for trivial reasons, due to hormones) I've lived in the Ghetto for 5 years of my life, and I've lived in the semi ghetto for 9. As said, I don't know everything, but I know that if you get cornered by 6 mexicans with beer bottles and knives, they'll have their way with you wether you want to talk it out or not.

Now obviously he is from Germany, where the mexican percentile is quite lower i'd imagine, but race isn't really the key card. The point is, the Kid should [glow=red]BUY A DAMN BACK PACK AND STOP *****ING. [/glow]
yeah, i agree with you on this though
Oh and as for the sports caste system, that's entirely true :nods:

Top would be American Football and the bottom would be Swimming/Badmitton

EDIT:  the bottom line is:  kasperl, don't get in a fight, regardless what these guys say.  taking into consideration what you've told us, i doubt that's the way out for you.

[IceFire]

Yay for Badminton!  I contradict that with a love for soccer.  Wee!

[Stealth]

Originally posted by IceFire
Yay for Badminton!  I contradict that with a love for soccer.  Wee!

soccer's awesome

[Knight Templar]

no, but the other 6 or 7 picures you do

There are no 6 or 7 pictures.. there are 3 pictures. 2 of which are with you.

i never said they weren't

This means you have no pictures or you are wrong.

then what are we arguing about? for i said the exact same thing: he shouldn't fight unless he has no other alternative

You tell me. Either you don't understand what is being said or you are getting confused after changing my words ala "Knight Templar = claims fighting's the only way out"

[Stryke 9]

He's topic bipolar. Anyone who doesn't agree with him automatically believes in the absolute extreme opposite concept (not agreeing with the statement "never fight" equates to "always fight", etc.). Happens in politics a lot.

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Stealth


trust me, i've gotten in more fights than most of you put together

And you don't see this as a problem? Dozens of people all wanting to smash the **** out of you? Assuming that this is actually true, and not exaggeration on 'once some guy pushed me', or you count every primary school argument or sporting match a fight, then you must be either one of the worst pacifists on the entire planet, or spouting a whole heap of rubbish that your own experiences have proven not to work. Either way, this is a problem.

You should work on it.

[Knight Templar]

But he's telling you to trust him!

Stryke's right.. almost seems like november 2000 again.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Stealth

I wasnt talking about IN SCHOOL, this is OUTSIDE. This is from 7 year olds to 25 year olds. Its not related to schools in any way, you muppet.

[Fineus]

Try and cool it down a bit please guys - HLP isn't exactly a Rift

[Goober5000]

Muppet!

[kasperl]

look guys, i agree with thunder (or whatever he's called), calm down. no need to fight because of me.

anyway. does who say to get a backpack, i have only on answer:
"please, STFU!":mad: . i already said somethig about that, here it is:

i first want to respond to those who say: "get a backpack". i don't carry this briefcase to be special,just because it carry's easier (IMO) and it helps keeping my books in on piece. i also don't feellike givong in to the bullies. because if i do, it would take about a week for them to think of something else to harras me with.

i just don't want to fight, it wil only make things worse, because i WILL lose for sure. another reason is that i'm sure it is a bad way of handeling this.

BTW: i live in holland, read the location, The Netherlands.


situation update:

i had to go to the basement this morning, it's pretty much an alternate lunching spot. i had to go there t buy something form a shop there. anyway, if found out that they're aiming a lot better there than at my usual spot: 15 hits, inlcuding a sausage like thingie and a salami sandwich. all to the neck or head.