[Petrarch of the VBB]

When? Which Bush are we talking about?

[Pera]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I quite agree with you, Pera. Not all of the US, though, just Dubya and his cronies.

Good point, post edited.

[Dark_4ce]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
When? Which Bush are we talking about?

"...the very foundations of time and space began to collapse and create compound fractures. Dimensional and alternate realities began to co-exists and events of different space but of same times began to happen simultaneously...."

*Continues his preaching to his followers.*

[Fetty]

uh well saw it coming
honestly told you so 1 month ago..
still pisses me off
but question am i the only one who thinks that blair looks a bit like bush ?

[Pera]

Originally posted by Fetty
but question am i the only one who thinks that blair looks a bit like bush ?

Not really, but...

[Tiara]

I'm sure some ppl will say "old"  but I hadn't seen it yet

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I'm going to get myself some robes.

Anyway. This will be like Vietnam again, I think. It will go on for bloody ages, and have no real winner.

They won't be able to introduce conscription (in the UK at least) because no-one will go.

nah, they'll just bomb every damn factory they see to the ground, then send in the marines. with the amount of troops they have in there I think it'll be over soon enough. I fear though, that it'll be like Afganistan. They go in, change the regime, then go out, and everything will turn back the way it was.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Stunaep

nah, they'll just bomb every damn factory they see to the ground, then send in the marines. with the amount of troops they have in there I think it'll be over soon enough. I fear though, that it'll be like Afganistan. They go in, change the regime, then go out, and everything will turn back the way it was.

Iraq has placed anti air defenses on all important building/sites etc. Though they'll be bombed anyway, not without losses.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Tiara


Iraq has placed anti air defenses on all important building/sites etc. Though they'll be bombed anyway, not without losses.

never said there wouldn't be losses

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Stunaep

never said there wouldn't be losses

I mean SEVERE losses. Especially with the civil armament that Saddam ordered. The US soldiers will be facing not only Iraqi soldiers but also the citizens. And when the US attacks the citizens Saddam will scream ATROCITY!

Remember, most civilians WILL fight the US as they see Bush as a greater enemy then Saddam as Saddam has given them food, free education etc. Bush Sr. and Co. has violated their trust SEVERELY.

[Unknown Target]

US is going to bomb the hell out of Iraq.
You're forgetting: we have stealth bombers.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Stunaep
I fear though, that it'll be like Afganistan. They go in, change the regime, then go out, and everything will turn back the way it was.

Saw a show with Blair talking about the 'plan' (read hopw but it's not been completely discussed within the UN yet) was to assist Iraq in setting up a new Gov. and continue to assist until they're able to stand on their own without fear of "Saddam Part 3"

Now what exactly is everone freaking out about ? Watching CNN right now and I've heard nothing more than "Bush to brief ~~" or some ****. and "War seems to be ineveitable" which if noone knew this a month ago they weren't paying much attention

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Tiara


I mean SEVERE losses. Especially with the civil armament that Saddam ordered. The US soldiers will be facing not only Iraqi soldiers but also the citizens. And when the US attacks the citizens Saddam will scream ATROCITY!

Remember, most civilians WILL fight the US as they see Bush as a greater enemy then Saddam as Saddam has given them food, free education etc. Bush Sr. and Co. has violated their trust SEVERELY.

Just so ya know... once they point a weapon at soldiers...they are not civilians.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Warlock


Just so ya know... once they point a weapon at soldiers...they are not civilians.

And you reaslly think Saddam cares? He'll do everything in his power to discredit the US with this.

This is just one of the things the US severly underestimates. the Iraqi's aren't exactly fond of the Americans and won't let them occupy their houses/cities without a fight.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Warlock


Saw a show with Blair talking about the 'plan' (read hopw but it's not been completely discussed within the UN yet) was to assist Iraq in setting up a new Gov. and continue to assist until they're able to stand on their own without fear of "Saddam Part 3"

Now what exactly is everone freaking out about ? Watching CNN right now and I've heard nothing more than "Bush to brief ~~" or some ****. and "War seems to be ineveitable" which if noone knew this a month ago they weren't paying much attention

That what they said about Afganistan. Look whats going on there now. As for a month ago, I kinda hoped Bush was bluffing, since the troops he bought to Iraqi borders, and the carriers he mobilised crapped Saddams pants, so I was hoping that when Saddam finally stepped down, Bush would go away happy.

I know, I'm naive

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Tiara


And you reaslly think Saddam cares? He'll do everything in his power to discredit the US with this.

This is just one of the things the US severly underestimates. the Iraqi's aren't exactly fond of the Americans and won't let them occupy their houses/cities without a fight.

Never said Saddam cares, my point is the fact that the world knows he will knowingly and willingly place civillans in danger. Being as human shields, arming mommy and daddy and telling them to go off and shoot something, gassing his own cities, etc etc. The US and whoever else is going in will try to avoid harming civillians,....but not at the cost of their own lives.

I'm personally in the mind that this is going to go like DS did. Yea they'll be a few new tricks by Saddam...but we've got quite a few new tricks ourselves.

[Warlock]

Well just annouced, they've said if Saddam and his crew step down and willingly except Exile we won't be attacking.



Worst thing that could happen...like he wouldn't just go right back.

[Tiara]

Well, no matter how you twist or turn this, massacre is inevitable.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Stunaep

That what they said about Afganistan. Look whats going on there now. As for a month ago, I kinda hoped Bush was bluffing, since the troops he bought to Iraqi borders, and the carriers he mobilised crapped Saddams pants, so I was hoping that when Saddam finally stepped down, Bush would go away happy.

I know, I'm naive

Well what I heard wasn't Bush saying it, it was Blair. Donno if thatmakes any difference. Only thing I'm concerned about are all my friends that are still on active duty.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Tiara
Well, no matter how you twist or turn this, massacre is inevitable.

Yea, war's not a pretty or clean thing like games But not can be done about it. They're still trying to kept from sending troops in.