[Bobboau]

removeing textures will not make models ugly, you will simply have to do a better job of UV mapping them

[Lynx]

So what's the maximal number of texture maps, now?

[Ryx]

Originally posted by Lynx
So what's the maximal number of texture maps, now?

As few as possible, IIRC.

[Taristin]

I'm still trying to bake the Nero so I can send Ryx a supa-efficient copy.

[Bobboau]

don't bake capships, that's the wrong way to go about it, if you have three or four or five textures thats fine (for a capship), but the people who have forty six seperate textures on one ship realy need to rethink there stratagy

[Taristin]

I have ~20. I don't think it'll do very well with less textures...

[Flipside]

I tend to bake mine to a 2048 x 2048 texture anyway, worked fine on the Atlantis

[Taristin]

That's what I was trying to do, but whenever I exported the mesh, it lost the texture data...

[Flipside]

This is a tricky one, Lightwave always exports OBJ files with 1 material only Have you tried exporting as 3DS? Either way 3D Explorer will fubar the textures. What I suggest is this....

1 : In the Display tab in Modeller, click the Grouping button and apply a name to each layer of your model.

2 : Now, when you merge the model and export it, it will be divided into submodels. Export as OBJ. The UV data is there, but no materials are.

3 : Use UVMapper, Deep Paint, Lithium or whatever to apply the correct material to each group.

It can still be a fiddly job, but it's worth the effort in the end

[KARMA]

I was working on the fenris model, actually I was planning to complete the mesh today in about 10 minutes, but before making the last tests I decided to add a couple of minor details, that I feeled were necessary.
As I've already said, I'm taking this model as a test for some strategies: I used an insane amount of submodels and some simple intersections. Both of those strategies can let you save many many polys, I estimate from 30 to 50% (but it just depend by the model), so it is interesting.
I noticed that there is a limit at the number of submodels you can have, well honestly I don't know if it is a "true" submodel limit, or something else, but I know that in this case if I have more than around 140 submodels the game crash.
I reduced the number of submodels (I was around 200...) making successive tests to find the limit, until the game stop crashing.
Then I made a collision test, and...****! I could fly through the ship.
Solved a problem here comes another one!
The annoying thing was that this never happened in the earlyer tests:/
After hours spent looking for the cause I remembered about the last details added (I nevre thought at them due to their simplicity and their size).
I removed them and the model started to work flawlessy:rolleyes:
The "funny" thing is that a simple cube of 10 triangles smaller than a feet's finger compared to a man's body and intersecting other minor submodels, but not the main hull, was enough to completely screw the whole BSP generation process of all the model, and therefore to make the whole ship non solid in game:/
And this happen when there are other intersections, that althought still very minimal are surely worse than this one.
bah!:hopping:
now it's late, I'll try to understand tomorrow if there is something I missed on those detail ( degenerated polys, double verts...), and I'll release -if nothing else happen- the mesh for whoever wants to give it a go at texturing.

[Flipside]

I think your problem there may well be points or polys too close together, this has caused problems for me before

[Setekh]

More... errr... winter cleaning. *unstuck*

[redsniper]

well, it's summer everywhere else