[IceFire]

Originally posted by Kazan
icefire: that would be ineffective - as bill gates would still be the central control and still could swing his operating system around like the brick it is

Not if...as part of the restructuring, the guy takes a retirement from everything.

[Kazan]

and leaves an equally asshatish goon in control - pretty much anyone billy would trust with running his company is going to be just like billy

[Turnsky]

and this surprises you?

[Kamikaze]

Erk. How did that happen? Windows is a generic term for certain GUI objects.

Does this mean I have to import from wxWidgets when using python? Will I have to make subclasses of the wxWidgets class?

[Kazan]

how did it happen? The current administration

[Knight Templar]

Stealth: When did I say I despised Microsoft enough to use Linux?

[mikhael]

Originally posted by an0n
WTF?

How come Lindows can get away with the similarity on a "Generic word" defence but wxWindows can't?

Easy. Lindows has at least some monetary clout. The wxWindows gang don't have any. They can't even afford to fight a fight they'd win.

As much as I'd like to blame the current administration here for this sort of thing (corporate cheerleaderism, etc), this is down to a British trademark, not an American one. Further, Microsoft did not "force". They did things politely, as the wxwindows.com site explains. This is NOT like the MikeRoweSoft.com thing. At least Microsoft is giving them some payola for their troubles. If it comes down to a choice between paying to fight a battle against the big corporate giant, or getting paid to throw the fight... well, hey, its just an API. Fess up the cash.


I suspect that the package will be renamed 'wxWidgets' and the actual API will remain unchanged.

I like wxWindows. Shame its so hard to get it to play with pygame.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Stealth: When did I say I despised Microsoft enough to use Linux?

the simple fact is, that while all of us here talk about how we despise Microsoft and Windows and Bill Gates and all the rest of it... all of us are using Windows.  It's ironic, we all hate it and talk so much sh1t about it, but we all use it anyway, i know I do, and i know you do, and i'm sure everyone that's posted in this thread does.  because as much as we all hate Microsoft/Windows/etc. it's still the most convenient operating system to use... as far as compatitibility, ease of use, and the rest of it goes.

[diamondgeezer]

Yarr, avast, this be set as my boot screen

[Zarax]

When you will understand that improve Windows is easier than replace it?
MS became the dominant standard because they were the first to build software for compatibility and ease of use...
Unless someone will come with a serious system with full compatibility and as easy to use as Windows MS will be the dominant standard...
Before having this place become a flame i will only say a thing...
Would anyone of you buy a non Intel CPU if your software won't run on it?

[aldo_14]

NB:  I'm switching over to a linux dual boot as soon as I get round to getting a bigger hard drive.  Seeing as I currently only program in java, and that I'd rather learn openGL than DirectX, it makes more sense for me.

BTW, how many people here would actually pay for windows?

[Fineus]

I already have paid for Windows. Before you all blast the decision - I must say that XP has worked almost flawlessly for me. It does everything I want it to, and if there's something missing then there's a program out there that will do the job. I'm not saying it couldn't be faster, better or whatever. But it could be a hell of a lot worse - indeed compared to Win98 it's a huge improvement.

However, just because I use this piece of software doesn't mean I agree with Microsofts way of doing things - I merely fall into the "it's most convenient for me to do things this way" catagory.

[aldo_14]

Paid as in 'shop' sense, or paid as in 'Barras' sens?

[Fineus]

As in "shop" sense I tried "trailing" WinXP with a CD I got from a friend at a LAN (actually I tried 3 different CDs) but none of them worked. At that point it hit me that for the price of approx. two games (at high street prices) I could pick up XP Pro, and that should my system go belly up it'd be better to have the fully legal version to hand.

So I bought it

[Odyssey]

Originally posted by Zarax

When you will understand that improve Windows is easier than replace it?
MS became the dominant standard because they were the first to build software for compatibility and ease of use...
Unless someone will come with a serious system with full compatibility and as easy to use as Windows MS will be the dominant standard...
Before having this place become a flame i will only say a thing...
Would anyone of you buy a non Intel CPU if your software won't run on it?

[color=cc9900]Here we go again.

• Replacing Windows has already been accomplished, many times over, a lot of those times even before Windows existed.
  
• MS became the dominant standard because they accumulated the most market share. I won't go into the means, you wouldn't listen.
• Define a serious system. I define a serious system as one that works for me. Buh-bye Windows.
• Ease of use? Skin Linux to look like Windows, if you're that fanatic. If anything, Vanilla Linux is often easier to use when it's installed since it cuts the happy-clappy dumb-user interface elements.
• MS will cease being a dominant standard when people start extensively developing for other platforms, i.e. when Windows loses market share. Come back later, it's being worked on.
• Yes, I would buy a non-Intel (presumably you mean non-x86) CPU, provided there was a suitable list of alternatives for programs I used on an x86 architecture. And, considering you can get Linux to run on most-anything, that list is of considerable size. In fact, I already have bought non-x86 CPU's.

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[color=cc9900]And no, I wouldn't pay for Windows. I have a Windows 98SE install and a CD that I have had since my dad bought it, and I keep it around as last-effort reserve and for trying things people give me that are Windows-only.[/color]

[pyro-manic]

DG, that's f***ing awesome! I wants it!

[Kazan]

Odyssey just owned Zarax

Zarax - you have your head SO FAR UP BILL GATE'S ASS that I think you should be BANNED - From this bulletin board, from working in the IT field and from breeding.  

I've Told you before Zarax - don't rear you stupid sychophant head in my threads

[Fineus]

Lay off the flaming guys, everyone is entitled to an opinion - agree or disagree you can state your counterarguement without the name calling.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by pyro-manic
DG, that's f***ing awesome! I wants it!

[Kazan]

kalfireth - i insult zarax because zarax doesn't listen to any opinion other than bill gates, zarax never has anything constructive of insightful to add to a thread and just iniates flamewars and poisons threads with his vary presence.