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Move Over, Tolkein, C. S. Lewis is here!
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Move Over, Tolkein, C. S. Lewis is here!
TLtWatW has been done to death...I've seen atleast 3 or 4 different movies, some were animated and one was live-action...

...My theory is that: It might be good...then again...Long Live LOTR!


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Originally posted by SadisticSid
No doubt they'll butcher the story's christian attributes to make it more 'compatible' with other faiths. What Stunaep said, basically.


I don't know, Sid. If one were to leave the story word for word intact and make no mention of God or the crucifiction, most people most likely wouldn't notice. I for one completely missed the biblical themes during my first three readings. It didn't help that I read the books in chronological, rather than canonical, order. As a result, I saw Aslan creating Narnia. That doesn't match well with Christian dogma, since Aslan represents the Christ, not the Father (consistently, Aslan always refers to his 'Father across/beyond the Sea', indicating His place in the world).

You might, however, run into some issues with the later books (The Horse and His Boy, The Last Battle). It would be very easy to find ethnocentric and religiocentric bigotry in Lewis' writings, with regard to the Calormene. Its not a far step to associate Tash with Allah. Of course, to do so would be most assuredly contrary to Lewis' intentions. Despite the middle-eastern depictions of the Calormene, Tash is surely intended to represent a Satan figure, rather than Allah. This is, of course, highlighted in Aslan's words to the Calormene soldier (something like, "whomever does good works in the name of Tash, is doing My work").

I think I remember all of that rightly. Calormene might be the wrong word, but I'm pretty sure that Tash is the evil god figure.
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Never read the book, so :p
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??!!!!???  Ok, I'm red all over (and a little blue).  I loved these books so much when I was younger.  Now is the first time I hear that they were Christian/biblical-themed books...  Now I really wanna read them again to see what I missed.
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Yeah, J3Vr6. It caught me by surprise too. I remember the moment when I went "Whoa... waittaminnit... Aslan is JEBUS!"
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So what do the little kids represent?  Man o man, I really gotta read these again.  I think I'm gonna go to my moms house tomorrow and see if I can find my copies.
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Narnia? Bah....:ick:


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*SMACK* Fanboy.

J3Vr6: the children are mankind as a whole. Alternatively they could be all of Christendom (though some 'Christians' might argue these are the same thing).
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Well, they are...
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Tsk tsk, J3Vr6. Christendom does not, I'm afraid, encompass Muslims, Buddhists, Shintoists, Hindus, etc. All of these are, however part of "mankind". There's a distinct difference.

To be mathematical, let's use set theory:
A is the set of all mankind.
B is the set of all Christendom.
B is a subset of A. A is a superset of B.
IE: A contains B, but B does not contain all of A.
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I was joking, silly billy, as all threads seem to become either uber political or religious.

But, isn't the belief of Christians that everyone is God's children and made in his likeness, whether or not they believe in him?

EDIT:  But let's not go down this route.  I'm just fooling around.  I try not to get into those debates.  It makes me pee.
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It makes me pee.


Goodness. I hope that's a euphemism or other figure of speech. :lol:
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Just purchased meself the complete Chronicles in on big fat volume yesterday, as it happens. Queen Whatsername is just about to relate the deployment of the Deplorable Word, IIRC (best WMD ever). She was a right nasty piece of work, that one :nod:

To think, yesterday arvo I was all set tp post a 'Narnia Rules OK' thread... small world I suppose. For the record, Dawn Treader owned an incredible ammount, especially the last bits :nod:

 

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Wasn't there already a series of movie versions of this? I remember a truly awful rendition of the Silver Chair one, in particular, though I don't really recall why it sucked so badly.

And yes, they are good books. And no, there's no way corporate Disney could possibly do them justice, even to the slight extent of not sucking.

 

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they could let someone else do it and then take all the credit.
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From what I understand, Nicole Kidman is going to play the White Queen. I don't know how I feel about that. On the one hand, she can pull off gorgeous, cold, haughty evil, but on the other she doesn't fit my image of the villain.
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Narnia movie NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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Move Over, Tolkein, C. S. Lewis is here!
I definitely remember watching LtWatW when I was much much younger, it was definitely a childrens' TV series (probably on the BBC, as it used to be much better before any matter of the Teletubby-era crap appeared).

mikhael, I do hope you're right, but I can't help but envision a multicultural hodgepodge interpretation of things. :(

 
NIcole Kidman is too good. Let Glen Close do it. She did a passable Cruella Deville. And if I rememebr correctly, the White Queen wasn't a prize winner in the looks department either.

  I read the books in Jr high and remember most of them. They were excellent. I do hope however that they go for the purist view and I won't be happy unless Aslan bleeds like a stuck pig (just as I remember). Oh and BTW only now as you mentioned it I see the Jesus correlation, and you're absolutely correct. That menas U know who was Judas...(not wanting to be a spoiler).
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