[Gank]

Originally posted by Rictor
But they have the right to fight for their freedom.

Originally posted by ionia23
True, they do.  And they shouldn't cry when they get shot back at. ......No sense dying for the ungrateful.

Ungrateful for what exactly? Their freedom? ffs

[Kazan]

Originally posted by Gank
Wtf were evangalistic christians doing going to Iraq in the middle of all this anyway?/B]

encouraging religions to do what they do best: start wars

[vyper]

[q]vyper: do you know the definition of the word slander - questioning is not slander[/q]

I was meaning that your attitude was really about questioning and negative commentary, and that you misrepresented yourself by saying "slandered".

[Kazan]

no i didn't misrepresent myself by saying "slandered" - i meant it - some of what's being tossed out is purely SLANDER, and that's what makes me angry


i don't mind questioning, i encourage questioning - but outright slander against anyone or any country shouldn't be acceptable behavior

[aldo_14]

Even if it's reciprocal?

[Gank]

Originally posted by Kazan
i don't mind questioning, i encourage questioning - but outright slander against anyone or any country shouldn't be acceptable behavior

Yet you yourself are slandering the Iraqis by saying they're using babys as human shields.

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Gank
Wtf were evangalistic christians doing going to Iraq in the middle of all this anyway?

They were being evangelic Christians. Ever wonder why they are called evangelic? Because they evangelize and preach the faith to non-Christians, whether said non-Christians want them or like them or listen to them or not.

[vyper]

I think we're getting closer to the cause of a great many things with that one.

[Gank]

I know that woolie, I was wondering why they chose a country full of heavily armed muslim radicals in the middle of an uprising to do that in.

[Kazan]

gank: i was saying it was a possibility, and nothing more

[01010]

Originally posted by Gank
I know that woolie, I was wondering why they chose a country full of heavily armed muslim radicals in the middle of an uprising to do that in.

Because God told them to. Duh

[Gank]

Originally posted by Kazan
gank: i was saying it was a possibility, and nothing more

Based on what exactly? If I'd have said US troops were doing the same thing you'd be the first to jump on me. Btw US troops did exactly that in Mogadishu.

01010, God sure has a funny sense of humour.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Gank
I know that woolie, I was wondering why they chose a country full of heavily armed muslim radicals in the middle of an uprising to do that in.

Cause they view it as a challenge

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Gank
I know that woolie, I was wondering why they chose a country full of heavily armed muslim radicals in the middle of an uprising to do that in.

Because they're stupid. Reason enough?

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Kazan
Rictor: they're not "fighting for their freedom" though - we have GRANTED them almost every freedom they could want (except for immediately leaving their country)

Why aren't we IMMEDIATELY leaving their country? because doing so would leave the place is a bigger mess than before we went in, we don't want to leave the place unstable and where people fear for their lives - we want to leave the place better than when we went in, so that we may be forgiven of our president's transgression of going in there at all

so basically: "since we ****ed up, let's try and make ammends" -  even if your "3 million" number is correct for the number of people supporting the insurgents, that's 15% of the population -- lemme see where you got that number

except the right to determine their government.

Thats a biggy. Why not hold elections>?

[Woolie Wool]

Sovereignity will be handed over on June 30th, and THEN elections will be held. You can't just jump into elections right after liberating a nation. It needs time to settle down first or the whole country will go to ****.

[Kazan]

rictor: wollie has a point

[Rictor]

Do you even read my posts? Sovereignty will NOT be handed over on the 30th. Symbolic control will be handed over, not actual control.

[Gank]

The US has no sovereignty to hand over in the first place, its a big show for the elections.

[Kazan]

Rictor: until you show that you are not just slavering-at-the-mouth biased I take all your posts with more than a grain of salt

but yes symbolic control is being handed over, and it is a big show for the elections