[Taristin]

Just wait till I have my fixed pof file uploaded...

[.::Tin Can::.]

That looks so beautiful...

[Lightspeed]

Think so?

I prefer stock FS2 one. These look too 'messy' - I'll try to get the effect I had in mind to work one of these days

[.::Tin Can::.]

Yes, I think so. I believe that the Sandwich Variant is great.

[Rictor]

I'm with Lightspeed on this. I love the foreground texture, and wouldn't change that unless someone pulls off a better one, but the background greenish texture is bothersome. As Lightspeed said, it looks too messy. The whole deal is still better than the vanilla one, thats for sure.

[ZylonBane]

I'm getting the most amazing sense of deja vu from this thread.

Haven't replacement subspace textures and a fixed background POF been available for years?

[JarC]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I just see them makeing different styles, which scared me alittle:p

you know the saying, pictures say more than words...that's why I only posted the pics, not the textures...

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Haven't replacement subspace textures and a fixed background POF been available for years?

please, let us normal beings share in your wisdom...

k, here the last 3 screenies, and I'm going to call this a bug, coz I can not get rid of that blocked spacedust flyin by, I tried just about every build I could find, Kazan's, Bobbeau's, Taylor's, they all show it, mission specifies 0 stars, if that's what you're thinkin

Sandwich's texture on both layers with one layer rotated 90 degrees.
(lightning doesn't combine well with this one)
edit: after an evening worth of experimenting, I must admit that this is my personal favorite sofar. The image simply just does not do justice to the effect...close second the one below this one


Again Sandwich's texture used on a single layer and the texture rotated 90 degress


and a slightly darker version of my first one (reuses already existing textures).


here's some notes on the subspace pof.
the outer layer rotates anti-clockwise and is the layer on which the texture (noise01) slowly rotates
the inner layer rotates clock-wise and is the layer on which the texture (noise01b) is moved along the z-axis
Also, what absolutely does not come across in these images, is that brightness in both layers is cumulative...Now, with Sandwich's single texture on both layers and one layer rotated 90 degress, this gives almost the kind of irregular behaviour as one of the previous comments suggested. As a result of the constantly changing positions of the bright spots relative to each other, the pattern that results is very unrepetative.

Basically as you can see from the above images, you simply need a texture on both layers, the outer one to give the impression you are in sort of a tunnel, and the inner one to give the impression of movement. The impression of speed depends highly on the speed at which the texture moves, which we can do nothing about.

There's only one thing what IMHO could enhance the 'feel', and that is if the POF were slightly bend so you would not, or only partially, be able to see the ends, as they would just be around the bend...

[Darkage]

I like the first screenie the most.

[Bobboau]

agreed

[Raptor]

First one for subspace, a red version of the second for  B5 hyperspace:D

[ShadowDrakken]

If the new models look nicer than the thing on the first page in the thread, sure

I'd really like to see the ability to use a different color portal for warping in and for warping out though more than just seeing a newer design to the portal

[.::Tin Can::.]

Stuck between the first and the third screenie. Im leaning towards mostly the first one, since it looks the most detailed and good.

[TopAce]

The second one looks better to me. The third one looks as if the player were flying in some sort of electric storm.
One other thing is the FPS value. Only 34? What if you place more ships in it? At most 11 FPS?

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by JarC
please, let us normal beings share in your wisdom...

Oh, so arch thou art.

A POF that fixed the "crinkled" subspace ends has been available for a long, long time (courtesy of Styxx). I believe it's hosted on Volition Watch. They also have piles of alternate subspace textures.

Funny to watch everyone all drooling and tripping over each other as if this has never been done before.

[Col. Fishguts]

Originally posted by ShadowDrakken
I'd really like to see the ability to use a different color portal for warping in and for warping out though more than just seeing a newer design to the portal

Bobbau once made a TBP build with this implemented, don't know if it's still possible....probably not. I also would like to see this implemented officialy in FS_open....maybe post-3.6 ?

EDIT: Oh, and the first piccie gets my vote.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by TopAce

One other thing is the FPS value. Only 34? What if you place more ships in it? At most 11 FPS?

If you are referring to my screen shots, the game was at 60 the whole time. Taking screenshots drops the frame rate to 32.

Originally posted by ZylonBane
A POF that fixed the "crinkled" subspace ends has been available for a long, long time (courtesy of Styxx). I believe it's hosted on Volition Watch. They also have piles of alternate subspace textures.
 

That one is 'crinkled' because I made a mistake with it. I have a new version that I'll upload either tomorrow, or the next day...

[StratComm]

Something really has to be done about those little black flecks, they've been an eyesore since about the time of the first env. mapping build.  They stand out more in subspace, but they are bad all over the place.  They make similar messes out of skyboxes, or anything else with a full, bright background.

[JarC]

Originally posted by TopAce
TOne other thing is the FPS value. Only 34? What if you place more ships in it? At most 11 FPS?

don't get fooled by that, mine was at 42 and also dropped to 30ish during the screenshots...even froze the game for a blib...

admittedly, I don't have a racemonster (PII466Mhz) so I am not even close to maxing the performance of my card (GeForceFX5200Ultra)

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Flipside
If you use an ANI, it seems to only use the first frame of it, at least, that's what it did for me

That's odd....  I have one working.  Although I think it may only work when the jpg / tga support is disabled - I'd have to check.  Also, the spec & glow maps were a pain in the tits to do.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Oh, so arch thou art.

A POF that fixed the "crinkled" subspace ends has been available for a long, long time (courtesy of Styxx). I believe it's hosted on Volition Watch. They also have piles of alternate subspace textures.

Funny to watch everyone all drooling and tripping over each other as if this has never been done before.

Damn that was a long time ago. About the same time I made close-orbit planet model. I guess it says something about the need to get off my ass and finish that project for once, huh?