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Offline Unknown Target

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Hey guys :) I was hoping one or two of you who agree with the below letter wouldn't mind forwarding it around?
Please, if you don't agree with it, try not to derail the topic.
Thank you!
(Yes, I know some bits may be construed as anti-christian, but I assure you I have nothing against that faith, and if you don't believe me, read our most recent religious thread :))


To see one’s own mistakes, one must first admit them. This is what I truly believe in, and for our nation to overcome the atrocity of our recent past, we must first admit that maybe we didn’t do the right thing. Turn and look, and see what you, the American people, have done. I’m talking to both liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans alike. Yes, even the liberals and Democrats are at fault here. They, like all of America, have turned their back on the glory that once was, and have instead decided to simply yell and scream, pointing accusing fingers at other. Why? I ask you, what does it matter who’s fault it is? All that matters is who will be the first to take a stand and say that this is not right. This is not what our forefathers fought and died for.
They did not fight and die for the United States to invade foreign soil. They did not fight and die for one religion (Christianity) to completely dominate the government. Yes, they were Christian. Yes, they came to North America to freely worship the Christian God. But just because our forefathers were Christian, does not give Christians the right to dictate to other what can and cannot happen! If you are saying that gay marriages should be illegal---why? There is nothing fundamentally wrong with gays marrying. If, perhaps…the Buddhist religion allowed gays to marry…you would be telling two gay men, very much in love, that they could not marry each other, because the Christian faith does not believe in it! That is not what America is! America is free! To be an American is to deserve the wonder of the world, to be an American means to work to stand above petty differences, to work for the good of all, to be part of the greatest nation ever conceived!
Yet we are losing this vision and we are losing this dream! Read what has happened to our liberties, read what our president, whom you, the people, elected, has done to our nation! Weep at the loss, weep for the souls who were sent to their deaths for an unjust war. 9/11 was a horrific event, truly; however, 9/11 was because of Bin Laden, not because of Sadamn Hussein! Now you are allowing our president to send thousands of Americans to their deaths! Deaths at the hands of a people whom we unjustly invaded!
It is not just the President’s fault, either! It is your fault. You elected him into office, you elected your senators into office. They passed the bill with hardly a whimper of protest from the people. The great thing about America is that our citizens have the power to change the world. We are the mightiest nation ever seen, and we have a responsibility as such.
It is not too late. Please, I beg of you, find ways to oppose what is happening right under your noses. Write to your senators, call for impeachments, call for votes of no confidence, do something, anything to prove to the world that we are not cattle being led blindly by the horns, but instead a proud, glorious people capable of moving the world!



                     - American
« Last Edit: February 18, 2005, 08:48:43 am by 368 »

 

Offline Tiara

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to be an American is to stand tall above your peers, to be part of the greatest nation ever conceived!

I'm sorry, but I take offense in the fact that you think that Americans are better then the rest. Cuz that's basically what it says. :doubt: Though, for the purpose of this letter, i can see why you go there. But that doesn't mean that I agree.

The first thing you must do in such a letter is tell the truth. Don't blow it out of proportions or you'll be just as bad as all those other propaganda writers.

"Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, their side and the truth." - Kosh

As for the letter itself, I suggest you organize it a bit. You have various topics crunched into a few lines.
I AM GOD! AND I SHALL SMITE THEE!



...because I can :drevil:

 

Offline aldo_14

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I'd have to agree with Tiara on that part; I think it's pretty unfair & sounds arrogant (insulting towards other nations, even), especially 'deserves the respect of your peers' (you earn respect, not deserve it).  As such, it does tend to alienate people from agreeing.

The rest of the sentiments, I pretty much agree with.

 

Offline Unknown Target

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Sorry :) This letter was written mostly to encourage American nationalism, and thus inspire Americans to change their government. It has been changed.

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 to be an American means to work to stand above your peers,



Better?

And it is just one letter (for now), hence, I tried to fit as much into it as possible.

 

Offline Tiara

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Just one more nitpick; 'peers' means 'those equal to you'. How can he/she be one's equal if he/she is above them?

Sorry, but you don't work to be 'above' anyone. However, you can work on being above 'something'. Like this for example;

"To be an American is work to stand above the differences between people. To be above arrogance, hate and maybe the most grievous error of all, indifference. To be American is to show everyone else that you have earned respect by doing so."

Just a suggestion. :)
I AM GOD! AND I SHALL SMITE THEE!



...because I can :drevil:

 

Offline Genryu

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And once again, we see how much of a sci-fi- geek Tiara is :D
Good job on the B5 quote though.
Man is making better fool proof machines everyday. Nature is making bigger fools everyday. So far, Nature is winning.
- Albert Einstein
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?"
- Gandhi

 

Offline Unknown Target

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Fixed once more:

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to be an American means to work to stand above petty differences, to work for the good of all


Is it satisfactory enough to spread around now? :)

 

Offline Tiara

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Yes, much better :) though, it is your letter, I'm just giving some suggestions ;)
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Offline Unknown Target

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No problem, all suggestions are welcome :D

Anyway, please do forward it around, if you wouldn't mind :)

 

Offline Nuclear1

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Well, that letter basically says everything I'm...

...against.

But go ahead with it. Free speech is the best thing about America. ;)
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Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline Fineus

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Mind if I just say at this stage that - after pointing out so many times that some people here have been unable to talk about politics without things getting out of hand - I wanted to address that balance and thank all of you here for not doing it this time. I hope this trend continues :)

 

Offline Nuclear1

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Well, we can hope. There's always going to be someone to come along and be stupid.

Damn, I've jinxed it.
Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline Flipside

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Hmmmmmmmm... Maybe 'Freedom of Speech' is the weak-point here?

After all, what we really need is 'Freedom of Expression', it's all very well being free to talk about things, if people cannot accept the fact that other people are different can still make sure that no action can ever come of it, then it is a pointless exercise.

 

Offline Unknown Target

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I always believed that if you struggled hard enough, you could make change. At least in America, where certain tenants that still haven't been taken away (yet) exist, allowing you to do so.

 

Offline Flipside

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I agree.

People confuse 'Democracy' with 'Mob Rule', but without representation for those who are not a majority as well, even if it's not as strong being represented properly, that's all it is.

Would you ask Diner Waitress to make critical decisions for a Finance company? No. Because he/she is not in a position to make an informed decision on it, they have no experience of Finance.

And yet.... What experience do men have of Abortion? What experience does a Heterosexual have of being gay?

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Very logical letter, and very well written.
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" -George Bernard Shaw

 

Offline redmenace

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When he does something impeachable, he should be impeached. The Law and constitution outlines strictly what impeachable offenses are. Lieing under oath, bribery, treason, murder stuff like that are really considered heainous enough. Just because you hate him doesn't mean you can impeach him. Just because congress tried to do it to Jackson doesn't mean that it is right to do so.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
              -Frederic Bastiat

 

Offline aldo_14

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You could possibly call for impeachments over the evidence for the WMD, etc, in Iraq... i'm not sure how possible it would be; proving wilfull lieing would be very difficult, and there's a whole subnetwork of sacrificable : bureaucrats and mid-to-low level politicians who  can be scapegoated for protection.

Put it this way; if the President or his staff (i.e. key members of the cabinet) were found to have lied in order to get support to go to war, would it be an impeachable offence?

 Or, as an alternate thing, would it be impeachable if they awarded countracts 'unfairly' to favoured companies (specifically thinking of the Halliburton thing, but also the whole camapign contributor thing)?

Not that i believe any competent politician would allow themselves to be able to be caught, of course.  I have no doubt that 99% of the people there (including the opposition) have mud on their hands from something, but they'll be experts at covering their arses too.

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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I don't think so, as non were under oath, so it wouldn't even by perjury. The contracts would be possible, though.
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" -George Bernard Shaw

 

Offline Unknown Target

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They could be charged for murder/war crimes. Witness Guantanamo Bay. That was authorized directly by the GWB.


BTW, if you do agree with the letter, please, pass it on.  :)