[aldo_14]

The only real difference IMHO between I-War 2 physics and FS2s, is that you have momentum to account for.  It's actually pretty cool, but I'm not sure it's as suited to a more action packed game like FS....

I-War battles are quite a lot like a dance, circle strafing the enemy.  FS is more of a fast, shooty affair.  Because of the physics, to a degree, but also because of the weapons and whatnot.

[Lynx]

Originally posted by MovGP0
I'm missing the way of docking from X - Beyond the Frontier or Wing Commander - you had to flight into a given region of an ship/station to land and therefora accomplish the mission.

Already possible now, with the subsystem-distance-sexp. You'll specify, like, if you are 3meters away from a certain subsystem the mission ends, in this case it'd be the docking ring or hangar.

As for 3d movies, it'd be cool to merge it with a free shooter engine, like QuakeSource or something. You have the normal FS engine and the other engine for cinematics. There's some project called vegastrike which uses something similar IIRC, and also a fan game called UFO...something(a X-Com style game) that uses a custom programmed 2d engine for base management, trade and so on and the Quake engine for combat.

[Drew]

there is an old space sim that actually did use true newtonian physics.  you could turn it on and off; if you didnt like the inertia, you could turn dampers on and movement would become much more FS2 like. if you had a dude on you six, you could swich dampers off, rotate, and fire into the dudes face.

[Lynx]

How's that games name?

[Drew]

i forget

[Lynx]

An intro idea:

Have the game search for a mission file called intro.fs2 or something on startup, so that you can create an ingame cutscene as introduction movie.

[Mav]

As for ideas, a respawn counter in multi would possibly be a good idea; something like the kills counter, just that it displays how many respawns you have left.

[castor]

Key-mappable primary/secondary banks.
e.g. keys x,y,z as fire from bank 1, bank 2 or both.

[Singh]

A totally and completely impossible request (ive asked it before, doubt anyone actually read it):

Have an option or side-build specially for cutscenes. This would take the mission directly from FRED and play through it. However, the mission would have a seperate flag that identified the player as a camera and non-movable. The mission would play through as normal...BUT, you'd never see it. Instead, it would render each scene at a certain FPS and output it as part of an AVI. This will make it a true cutscene, and with it outputting each frame, FPS issues will vanish forever, although like another renderer, it would take time to finish the entire scene/mission in this case. But hell yes, it'd save a lot of trouble!

[Singh]

Originally posted by Turnsky


or better yet... Hallfight.

Damn man! I want to see a shivan in-game like that!

No, wait...correction: I want to FIGHT one in game! Now THAT would be simple, sheer coolness and terror combined to make something incredibly attractive

[Trivial Psychic]

Originally posted by Singh
A totally and completely impossible request (ive asked it before, doubt anyone actually read it):

Have an option or side-build specially for cutscenes. This would take the mission directly from FRED and play through it. However, the mission would have a seperate flag that identified the player as a camera and non-movable. The mission would play through as normal...BUT, you'd never see it. Instead, it would render each scene at a certain FPS and output it as part of an AVI. This will make it a true cutscene, and with it outputting each frame, FPS issues will vanish forever, although like another renderer, it would take time to finish the entire scene/mission in this case. But hell yes, it'd save a lot of trouble!

Haven't you played STL?

[Drew]

adding a FPS engine to the SCP sounds rediculous. the differences between the two engines are just crazy.  SCP does not have a truly optomized open ended code as an FPS engine like Unreal

[Singh]

Originally posted by Trivial Psychic

Haven't you played STL?

STL?

Edit: if you mean shrouding hte light, then no.

What I was asking for is a bit different. In-game cutscenes are fine...IF you have hte FPS. The request is for an actual rendering outputted to avi. This skips every limitation that comes with playability almost completely, allowing for some incredibly impressive eyecandy without FPS lossage (since it would render the entire thing according to the required FPS).

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Drew
adding a FPS engine to the SCP sounds rediculous. the differences between the two engines are just crazy.  SCP does not have a truly optomized open ended code as an FPS engine like Unreal

yeah, an FPS portion of a space combat game would feel rather odd... this is freespace, not mace griffin: bounty hunter

that said, the ability to model even simple human figures (they need not speak, or be that articulate), it could be for such a use as like... a carrier launch crew milling about your vessel as they prep for launch..

just to add an extra dimension to freespace..

that, and for ****s and giggles, you can add the odd guy in a space suit "flipping" you the bird as he gets out of his crippled fighter.

[StratComm]

On the rendering idea: why not just render the cutscene properly?  With only a little more setup, you'll get a much better end result.

[Singh]

Originally posted by StratComm
On the rendering idea: why not just render the cutscene properly?  With only a little more setup, you'll get a much better end result.

Because MAX or lightwave dont have SexPs.

[willy_principal]

(FRED) I wanna put variables in the arrive cues...

[StratComm]

Eh, it's simpler to set up but not as robust.  Basically you're letting the AI do a good bit of the setup for you, which may or may not act like you want every time.

To willy_principal:
Event: Variable Arrival
When
-Arrival conditions
-do-nothing

Arrival Cue:
When
-isEventTrueDelay
 -Variable Arrival
 -0

[Singh]

Originally posted by StratComm
Eh, it's simpler to set up but not as robust.  Basically you're letting the AI do a good bit of the setup for you, which may or may not act like you want every time.

I know...but then, sometimes simplicity is best. It's not like im asking for total control or anything, just enough for the camera. The AI can be manipulated by...'other' means in FRED and elsewhere, but at the least it'd make the entire process simpler and easier, not to mention more accesable to the masses

[Drew]

Originally posted by Turnsky


yeah, an FPS portion of a space combat game would feel rather odd...

id be cool, but the engines just dont line up together.  it would allow new modes to convey the FS universe, but its just to complex to happen. the code would need to be guuuuuuuutted, and redone to match an engine like unreal where stuff like this is already possible.