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Offline Grug

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They needed ninja's. Screw lighsabers. Where were the force wielding ninja's! :D

 

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... Still think Yoda's best part was fighting R2 for the lamp in ESB.
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Damn, I think this is the comment of this thread.
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My 10th post! :D

How come everyone here is talking about the plot and the events of the movie? I think that those aspects of ROTS are the most easy to understand, and also the weakest arguments against ROTS. What about the music, special effects and acting? Personally, I thought that the characters, who were mostly played by above average actors, had some stale/bland lines. This wasted a lot of the good actor's skills although, I don't mind that for a Star Wars movie, because all 6 of them were pretty much the same in terms of dialogue quality. The rest of the movie, IMO, was brilliant and any other faults or flaws one cares to mention are just little scratches on the king's crown.
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They probably wanted the plot of the very last Lucas film to be more complicated than that.
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Well, considering the fact that the plot is worth being discussed for 13 pages, maybe it's not so straight-forward after all?

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We have been discussing the whole movie in this thread + don't forget it also has an om-topic discussion. Whatever we say about Episode III is off-topic, considering the first post.
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No, my point was not about this thread, but that the plot is actually good enough to be so heavily discussed.

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Yeah, the man's got a point. It's a self-defeating argument to be so pre-occupied with a plot that apparently isn't that good. It's good/interesting/gripping enough to keep our attention and make us ticked off when it's not quite the way we want it. ;)

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They needed ninja's. Screw lighsabers. Where were the force wielding ninja's! :D

What do you think Yoda was? :p

 

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Yoda wasn't a ninja, he couldn't speak Japanese.
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Yoda wasn't a ninja, he couldn't speak Japanese.


How do you know that? Did you ever see anyone try to speak to him in Japanese? :D
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Yoda wasn't a ninja, he couldn't speak Japanese.

He looks and talks like some ancient Chinese wiseman who can kick major ass when needed. That's good enough for me. :p

 

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Facts:

1.    Ninjas are mammals.

2.    Ninjas fight ALL the time.

3.    The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.


Although Yoda may fall under #1, he does not fall under #2 or #3, so therefore, Yoda is not a ninja.

 

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He looks and talks like some ancient Chinese wiseman who can kick major ass when needed. That's good enough for me. :p

[color=66ff00]Ninja's are Japanese.

Whole world of difference from the Chinese.
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If you try to say that they're the same, both the Triad and the Yakuza will come kill you.

The only real connections are that both are Mongoloid peoples, and that they have a similar cultural base due to the importing of Chinese cultural concepts in the first millenium by a Korean kingdom.
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[color=66ff00]Ninja's are Japanese.

Whole world of difference from the Chinese.
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If you try to say that they're the same, both the Triad and the Yakuza will come kill you.

The only real connections are that both are Mongoloid peoples, and that they have a similar cultural base due to the importing of Chinese cultural concepts in the first millenium by a Korean kingdom.


:rolleyes: Yes, I know. I was just expressing my lack of concern for this subject matter. Anyone that doesn't know Asian nationalities are different from one another is ignorant.

 

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He shouldn't have done that, because the two trilogies would have contradicted each other. :nod:


You mean they would have contradicted each other more than they already do.

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Mace Windu was the second best lightsabre-wielder in the galaxy, first was Yoda.
However, if it comes to the Force, I think Palpatine was the stronger.


Not quite. Mace Windu was the on ewith the lightsabre skills. Yoda was the one with the knowledge of the force.

When Mace and Palpatine are fighting, Mace pretty much toys with him for a bit, then lets him know he's serious when they do that close up shot on his face. After that, he promptly disarms Palpatine by kicking his lightsabre out the window. (which he somehow gets back to fight Yoda with)

Yoda on the other hand, did not have supierority over Palpatine in the lightsabre department. He was agile though. But Yoda's forte was in the force. Where Mace had to use his lightsabre to block force lightning, and eventually got killed by it, Yoda absorbs it in his hands, on two seperate occasions. The last time, on the platform, Yoda even brings the lightning back upon Palpatine, at which point the camera makes a shot of Palpatine going from a cackling looney to actually being afraid. Afterward, the explosion sends Yoda flying because he's smaller, Palpatine has a chance to grab on the edge.

The fact that camera angles and shots were taken of Palpatine in fear of both Yoda and Mace's abilities shows their supieriority over Palpatine in those areas.
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Not quite. Mace Windu was the on ewith the lightsabre skills. Yoda was the one with the knowledge of the force.


Don't know how relevent this is but Samuel L. Jackson did actually once say in an interview that his lightsabre skills were second only to Yoda's.

Of course actors generally don't know the universe anywhere near as well as the fans :)
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Don't know how relevent this is but Samuel L. Jackson did actually once say in an interview that his lightsabre skills were second only to Yoda's.
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(which he somehow gets back to fight Yoda with)


I bet he just used one of his spares. After all, the Sith generally seem to have far less reverence for the whole lightsaber construction process; they don't see it as a rite of passage like the Jedi do, and so they just go ahead and get synthetic crystals instead (hence the universal red colour). Maybe he has a drawer somewhere full of them. :)
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