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Guys, this pointless discussion is getting ridiculous. The simple truth is is, you are both right, and you are both wrong. Volition screwed up the animations, they have the bodies do one thing, and the weapons do another. If we guide ourselfs by the body animations, the smaller gun is either a nade launcher or a shotgun. If we guide ourselfs by the muzzle flashes, then it becomes an assault rifle. Either way, it´s pointless. Had you read the first posts, you´d see this was all covered already.
Now let´s drop the issue. It really doesn´t matter, because we´ll make our own minds about it anyway.

Now, to stop ALL the bickering, feast your eyes on this:
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Offline FireCrack

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Is THAT a shotgun? or a nade launcher?


And on the topic, what positions do you need filled/have open?
actualy, mabye not.
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It's already been dropped. As for your new gun, THAT, I really, really like.

What game is Hegemonia gonna be for?
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Offline FireCrack

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actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
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Blind people with them..."

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Offline NGTM-1R

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Well, you are both correct...and both wrong.

Exhibit A: Closing In



All of them were firing as the Shivans closed in...HOWEVER, it is also worth noting that by the time the female trooper in question fires, the muzzle of her weapon is not in view and so muzzle flashes cannot be observed. This leaves us with the body animation, which suggests she fired a weapon with heavy recoil twice.

Exhibit B: Who The Hell Is That?



Shot is almost certainly of the center, male trooper. The gun is wrong for it to be the female trooper with the weapon in question, and the view is wrong for any other besides the center man as viewed from behind and slightly to the left (interestingly, roughly the posistion where there was another trooper).

Also please note apparent spot illumination from the right side  of the Shivan's leg, probably from another Terran's weapon-mounted light. The only trooper to the right is the female trooper with the weapon in question. This is reasonable proof she was pointing her weapon in the direction of the Shivan which got whacked.

Exhibit C: Shivan Going Down



While the man is in fact moving back, there is no muzzle flash to indicate he is firing his weapon as either AR or grenade launcher. Partial lighting of the Shivan's "head" can be accounted for by the fact the Terran troopers had flashlights affixed to their guns; angle for such illumination is roughly correct. The trooper illuminating it would be, based on rough shape, size, and apparent angle of the illumination, the female trooper with the weapon in question. This operates both for and against the theory she fired: her weapon was pointed at the target, but recoil may or may not have caused it to move off-target. No good shots are available of her firing her weapon to show in which direction it largely recoils.

Conclusion: while impossible to completely disprove he did not fire a grenade or some kind of AP projectile himself, it seems highly unlikely based on the lack of apparent muzzle flash. It is also worth noting that last shot of the female trooper with weapon in question had her lit by muzzle flash, presumably from her weapon.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2005, 09:29:33 pm by 2191 »
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Originally posted by FireCrack
Is THAT a shotgun? or a nade launcher?


And on the topic, what positions do you need filled/have open?


I don´t know yet, but i´m thinking a 23rd century shotgun. The ammo drum holds 12 rounds, wich is good for a shotgun, but a little too much for a nade launcher.


As for "job" openings, we need a skin/texture artist most of all, but we also need a cutscene man, a sound man, and a code man. Oh, and a interface man for menus, HUDs, etc. The rest is pretty much covered.
Anyone interested can post in our forum here:

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=52

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Offline Boomer

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Ooohhh.....  Shotgun... Me likes.:D

Why would it need a scope though?:confused:

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Offline pyro-manic

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It's a very nice model, but it strikes me as being very.... "un-futuristic", if that makes sense. It looks like something that could be around today (with the exception of the scope), not a weapon 300 years more advanced than that.

EDIT: And it looks like I might have to find a copy of UT2004 on the cheap now.

One thing worries me, however - I'm hoping like hell this project will somehow avoid the usual mulitplayer-only disease that FPS mods tend to suffer from. I simply wouldn't be interested unless there's a single-player element, i.e. a story. That may come across as harsh, but I find multi-player tedious in the extreme for nearly every game I've played (with the exception of Call of Duty)...
« Last Edit: June 21, 2005, 04:37:37 pm by 853 »
Any fool can pull a trigger...

 
We are doing single player only.
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Offline pyro-manic

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Thank f*ck for that. :D:yes:
Any fool can pull a trigger...

 

Offline Fragrag

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I can just imagine it, standing in a Argo, ready to move in, you dock and then hell lets loose...
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Offline redsniper

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I want to get in a swordfight with a shivan. :D
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Offline Carl

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our current first person shooters look much better than the pre-rendered cutscenes of 1998.

just pointing that out.
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Offline redsniper

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Kind of like FSO looks better then the FS2 cutscenes.
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