[Swamp_Thing]

After watching Hallfight for a few times, i noticed some inconsistencies. For example, the model animation of the soldier when firing is not matched by the muzzle flashes. The animation makes it look like the guy is firing a shotgun, with a big recoil, but the muzzle flashes look like he´s firing a continuous burst of projectiles.
There is also a scene where one of the soldiers moves his arm around pointing the way, just as if he didn´t have a 50 pound gun strapped to his arm. The weapon looked weightless.
Anyway, we can´t dwell on these inconsistencies, otherwise we would never reach a consensus and get the work done. I guess we have to pick a side and stick to it.

[RED DIAMOND]

Really excellent model work mate.

[Setekh]

She's a beauty, nice work - especially off that single source.

[Lone Knight]

You can also get a good look at a gun in the mini cutscene that can be found on the Silent Threat Disk.

[Hippo]

Sorry, but that is NOT the ML-16. The ML-16 looks like this;


which is MUCH closer to the second hallfight picture you posted. The one you modeled is also seen in the run video, but it is clearly not the ML-16...

[TopAce]

I remember a talk about marines using ML-16s in the Hall Fight. Maybe he based his idea on it.

[Swamp_Thing]

Actually, i don´t think it´s the ML-16 either. As many pointed out already, having a marine carrying a weapon that is fitted onto a fighter seems impossible.
I only called it ML-16 in this thread, because that´s the name most people relate to.  If i had my way, i would call that a plasma thrower, a kind of energy grenade launcher.

[Charismatic]

Great model, btw.

[Gai Daigoji]

Originally posted by Nuke


what engine did you alll decide to use, have to make sure i have it when the mod comes out

We're using the Unreal 2004 engine

[Nuke]

good, saves me the trouble of buying another game

[Fade Rathnik]

The Marine Rifle depicted looks like the ML-16 mesh with a power cell and handles. Likely the mesh was just re-used. But it could easily explaned as a scaled down version of a proven weapon for personal use.

[Mefustae]

True, i mean, how do we know that it's not just a modified, scaled-down model of the ML-16, for proof, look at how the gun does absolutely jack all to the Shivans, quite a bit like when it's mounted on your ship...

...You could call it the ML-16, but modified, like the PML-16D; the 'Personal Medium Laser 16, model D'

[Jetmech Jr.]

Didn't the weapon used against the Shivan need to charge up? How was it a grenade?

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
Didn't the weapon used against the Shivan need to charge up? How was it a grenade?

Charge? Where did you saw that? I scrutinized Hallfight from top to bottom, and didn´t find anything remotelly resembling charging.

[Jetmech Jr.]

Listen as the Marine screams "DIE!" You can hear a humming, buzzing sound that ends when the weapon she's holding fires, downing the shivan.

[JoeLo]

In theory, a soldier could carry a scaled down version of the ML-16 laser, that uses the same principal of fire, power source, and every thing else, its just smaller.

[Boomer]

what engine did you alll decide to use, have to make sure i have it when the mod comes out

Won't the build have to include the engine in one way or another?

If not that would really bite... Anyway to possibly download?

[CMA]I'm am not encouraging the reveal of an illegal source!  If you know a place, make sure it's legal![\CMA]

And for the model....

Ooooooohhhhh, pretty......

Mommy, can I get one of those for my birthday?

[Annorax]

Originally posted by Boomer


Won't the build have to include the engine in one way or another?

If not that would really bite... Anyway to possibly download?

[CYA]I'm am not encouraging the reveal of an illegal source!  If you know a place, make sure it's legal![\CYA]

And for the model....

Ooooooohhhhh, pretty......

Mommy, can I get one of those for my birthday?

I'm assuming the CYA edit was a link to a source for warezing UT2k4. It  should be said that such a link would be totally useless because it checks the serial number against Epic's master server at runtime. Warez serials get banned by the master server, which also bans the user from eventually buying and installing UT2k4 from that computer and flags the IP for auto-banning if another computer is used with a legit serial. In short... don't even try.

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Annorax
It  should be said that such a link would be totally useless because it checks the serial number against Epic's master server at runtime. Warez serials get banned by the master server, which also bans the user from eventually buying and installing UT2k4 from that computer and flags the IP for auto-banning if another computer is used with a legit serial. In short... don't even try.

Pssssssssssst, don´t tell anyone, but they cracked that a week after release. I know it for a FACT.

[Boomer]

Ummmm.  CYA stands for Cover Your Ass.  I don't feel like getting banned you know.  Maybe I should change it to CMA for Cover My Ass.

Also, I'm asking if there is a place where I can either buy or download a legal registered copy.  I'm not trying to pirate here.