[Ghost]

How many other weapons have you seen with a carrying handle of that type? Not bloody many, and I think we can rule out high-caliber sniper rifles in this case.

1:44 is CENTER FRONT. Not just "center," otherwise we WOULD see Marines, so you just proved my ****ing point.

[Jetmech Jr.]

You're edit, Ghost, means absolutely ****!

YOU CAN SEE THE MUZZLE OF THE DAMN GUN WHEN SHE FIRES IT AND KILLS THE SHIVAN. It looks NOTHING like the other gun. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It's silver, and has 2 holes on the top, and it's TALL. THe other guns are grey, peppered with holes, and are short and round.

Get a clue.

It fires once, theres an explosion, and the shivan dies. Period. Trying to pass anything other than what is shown in the cutscene as what actually happened is stupid, because we can see in the CS that it's not the damn autogun.

[FireCrack]

Hey, how the heck many weapons have you seen wiht a carrying handle the same type as the other guns, mounted to the wrist.

Center, center front, what's the difference! The point is we see no other marines so it's imposible to tell if it's center front, left front, or even right front!

[Jetmech Jr.]

YOU SEE NO OTHER MARINES BECAUSE SHES IN THE LEFT-FRONT OF THE GROUP.

It's like trying to teach a retarded 2 month old chimp to juggle watermelons. You just don't seem to be able to grasp it.

[FireCrack]

Jet, i'm arguing the same thing. We see a shot of the front left marine (with big gun, female) when the shivan explodes, or at the verry least it's imossible to tell what one we are viewing.

[Ghost]

Look at the goddamn LIGHTS, you buffoons! How else do you think I figured it out?


Firecrack: I don't know, but I certainly do see lots of assault rifles that fire in bursts that also have GRENADE LAUNCHERS on the bottom of them. You'll also notice that the SAW in the picture above has the guys right arm in it. Amazing what you discover when you use your brain(which, incidentally, utilizes your EYES to discern information about its surroundings).

[FireCrack]

I see no grenade launchers, provide an image and point it out.

[Jetmech Jr.]

In scene 1:44, It shows a marine firing one of hte Autocannons. HOWEVER, this is not the marine who fires the big gun, and not hte marine who downs the shivan.

How do I know? Because:

1. The marine with the big gun is in the left-front of the group, as is established earlier in the cutscene.

2. The marine in 1:44 is not this marine, because there is a Flashlight beam coming from the LEFT of him. Therefore, he can't be at the left of the group.

3. The Marine in 1:44 is not hte marine who takes out the shivan, because the marine who takes out the shivan a.has no flashlight coming from the left, and has the big gun muzzle, as is clear from the scene itself.

Therefore, we can conclude it was the Marine with the Big gun who took down the shivan

Case closed.

[FireCrack]

Can an admin split this thread, it's supposed to be about swamp-thing's model.

The marine that takes out the shivan has no flashlight coming from the left?

[Hippo]

Will the lot of you calm down already?

[Jetmech Jr.]

You're right. Apologies, Ghost, for the temper.


...You're still wrong.

Oh, yes, what Firecrack said. Could an admin split the thread? Sorry to you, as well, Swamp_thing, for derailing.

[Ghost]

Firecrack: look on page 1. The big round thingy is the grenade launcher.

The Marine with the big gun is the woman, yes? Henceforth, I KNOW that's not the Marine in 1:44.

The Marine in 1:44 is the one that blows up the damn Shivan, because you can see his 'autocannon,' as you call it, being lowered after he blows the **** out of it.

It CANNOT be the woman saying "DIE" because you clearly see her with both hands on her weapon.

Out of curiousity(and possibly to help clear this up), how many people are there with the big gun?

[FireCrack]

I still have no idea who was saying what.


What a pointless argument.

[Ghost]

Bah. Fine. It's over. But Jet: you have the wrong word. When you say "You're still wrong," you need to change that to "You're still right."

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by Ghost
Firecrack: look on page 1. The big round thingy is the grenade launcher.

The Marine with the big gun is the woman, yes? Henceforth, I KNOW that's not the Marine in 1:44.

The Marine in 1:44 is the one that blows up the damn Shivan, because you can see his 'autocannon,' as you call it, being lowered after he blows the **** out of it.

It CANNOT be the woman saying "DIE" because you clearly see her with both hands on her weapon.

Out of curiousity(and possibly to help clear this up), how many people are there with the big gun?

Incorrect. Its the womans BIG gun that is being lowered, after SHE blows the **** outta it.

She has both hands on the weapon at first, then brings one up to shield her eyes when the weapon fires.

[Taristin]

It'd damn well better be over. How you can fight like little children over a ficticious weapon, carried by a ficticious soldier, in a ficticious universe is beyond me.


Thread will be split and locked next time, and, should it continue further, I will ask the admins to restrict posting priveledges for an unspecified period of time.

Yes, a gross overabuse of power. ph34r.

[NGTM-1R]

Somebody direct me to where I can download FRAPs, please? I intend to end this...

EDIT: Got the program. Time to fire up that AVI again.

[Hippo]

just sue mve2avi

[Taristin]

Take it to PMs, if you feel the need to continue this further.

[NGTM-1R]

FRAPS=Screenshots.