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Offline Sarafan

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Begin plasma core insertion, gunnery control, open fire:




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7th kill. :)

How? Simply tell me how did you do it? :wtf:
Anyway, Derelict is one of the best if not the best campaign for FS2.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2006, 10:06:19 pm by Sarafan »

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
How? Simply tell me how did you do it? :wtf:
Anyway, Derelict is one of the best if not the best campaign for FS2.

I have witnessed the same thing happening. Apparently, it couldn't destroy Docking Ring Alpha, so it was stuck there while the GTVA fighters drove the tsathoggua away, desroyed the bombers and fighters and I kept pounding on Lucy's other weapons. In the end, the Lucy was destroyed by the Cypher, and Docking Ring Alpha still had 4 % hull integrity left.

After that, nothing happened so I jumped back to base, where I was declared AWOL and grounded.. :lol: They said that I had risked the lives of millions by leaving the battle zone unauthorized. Oh well, I guess destroying a shivan super destroyer isn't enough for one mission... :shaking:
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Yes, while testing for some bugs I mantised (961 and 962), I've played "The Stars are Right" for about 5 million times and I can say it has some design "weaknesses" (I post them in dark blue as they can be spoiler):

+ The shivan cruiser is sometimes disabled (I posted it before in this thread), although it is always supposed to escape in debriefing and following briefings and missions.

+ Docking rings are destroyed at VERY different rates every time you play. The Lucy class attacks with its beems alpha but not beta. So sometimes it really takes too much for them to be destroyed.

+ Shivans attack the centers of docking rings which are inside the Lucy class. So a lot of time they're attacking their own boss.
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Offline Kaboodles

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
On my next try I destroyed only one of the main beam cannons.  The Bast still died, but all of the messages ended up coming out of order.  It was slightly amusing. 

 
Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Man this is one cool as hel mod thanks :)
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
I've fixed two minor minor minor bugs but nevertheless here they are:

  • In "Shadowplay" (Dl4-01-L2.fs2), Beaufort is sometimes not destroyed by Deus (it has happended once to me). But its IFF is not chaged so it keeps friendly so if you need to finish it, all the ships get enemies as you are a TRAITOR ... With my fixed mission, Beaufort IFF are also changed (if alive).
  • In "Quoth The Raven" (Dl4-01-L3.fs2) Roskva 2 is always stealth because in the SEXP parameters Roskva 3 is uncloaked in its place.

I do know they are very little fixes but, hey, this is my VERY FIRST Fred usage.  :D

(In case there's someone very very nooby, just unzip the vp file inside Derelict folder).


EDITED ------
Look for these missions inside my next post attachement.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2006, 01:18:00 pm by ARSPR »
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

Whoever Hanlon was: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Dell Dimension 9200 - Vista 32-bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz - RAM 2 GB DDR2
nvidia 8800 GTX - Integrated Sigmatel Audio

 
Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Very very noobie, why don't you just type my mane in there instead LOL

You know,"incase wolfen downloads this"
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Offline karajorma

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Cause although you're new you're not the only one :)
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
You mean to tell me I wasn't the last on the face of the earth to find this place?
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Offline Mura

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
no, maybe i was... and i still can't use scp :(

i really need to upgrade or buy a new pc(this means make a new one)... any recomendations?
Signed, me

 
Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Well when it comes to computers I don't know all the specs and what you would want, I know that if you already have a keyboard, monitor and mouse all you really need is the cpu itself, so you might be bale to save some money that way. Personally, (even though mine is an old pos) I recomend going as top of the line as possible, that way its longer between times you have to upgrade.
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Well I've also fixed some bugs in Playing Possum (Dl4-05.fs2) but now I can say these are quite BIG tweaks:

+ I have put clear-goals SEXPs to Alpha Wing so even if you have previously ordered something (like Protect Telus or whatever) they go to sleep when Shivans arrive.

+ I have also put clear-goals SEXP to wake up them. In "retail" version you had to give some order to them. (The perfect way to do this wake up is with a remove-goal->ai-play-dead SEXP, but remove-goal SEXP seems to be broken).

+ Your movement detection by shivans is made with speed SEXP rather than keyboard acceleration key pressing detection. In "retail" version you could accelerate with your joystick thruster without been detected (as example, I NEVER use any acceleration keys at all).

+ I've linked Cancer arrival to player's stop. So you have to stop if you want the mission to continue. In "retail" you could ignore the play dead directive and then you Weren't detected by shivans. You could even attack Cancer without being detected.

+ I've also deactivated glow points in friendly ships, (even player one), while they're playing dead.

+ I've deactivated engines in friendly ships (but player one) while they're playing dead so they do not have engine glows. I've done in this way because I haven't found any other. I don't disable player ship 'cos then you cannot either accelerate or move at all.

+ Some other tweaks in message playing and event order and timing inside fs2 file.


I upload a new 00_dl4_patches.vp with this updated mission and the two previously fixed (see my previous post).

Please if you detect any error don't curse me too much, (this is my first FRED usage week).

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« Last Edit: July 22, 2006, 02:18:45 pm by ARSPR »
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

Whoever Hanlon was: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Dell Dimension 9200 - Vista 32-bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz - RAM 2 GB DDR2
nvidia 8800 GTX - Integrated Sigmatel Audio

 

Offline Getter Robo G

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Hey guys (back again)...

  I DL'ed Shivan's pack 1.5 and the 1.8 update... Guess what? SCP3.6.8 runs & I can choose mods!!! (WOOT!)

Ok, calm self down...

I loaded up normal fs2, it runs and looked great (though I used Shivan's pilot and was fighting in the nebula  with the Lysander  :lol:!) Success!

I decided to PRESS my luck before work and try to load Derelict. Mod was found and chosen in campaign room, custom loading screen came up and got about halfway, I think, when an error popped up:

Error loading pof: cruiser01x (I think), turret up spline (something)
vertice/path 1??
line 8500

Is this new or has been adressed? What can be done?
BTW choosing break into debugmode caused CTD.

Thanks in advance! (see you in about 12-13 hours)

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Offline zwaps

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
I just registered here to point out how incredibly great the campaign was and how much I enjoyed playing through it in one day.

It is really well balanced. The original campaign, when played in SCP, is far too hard, but Derelict was perfect.

Here are some bugs or whatever:
- When you first meet to Auriga, you can simply destroy it with long range weapons and patience. Let it warp out after the Iceni type left.
- In the mission where the Ravana (i think) class warps in at your Meson Beam thingy, the beam doesn't fire (or whatever is supposed to happen) and the Ravana just rams it, destroying it and then everything just sits there. Mission resumes as soon as you destroy the Ravana
- The Nebula always creates a lag every few seconds. Dunno why
- In the mission where you have to scan the Lucifer, you should include some kind of Navpoints, because you get lost easily. For example when the new ship comes in, I was already fleeing and my only option was to warp out and call the mission a failure, because I couldn't find anything anymore.

Other than that, great campaign.
Any other campaigns I can try with SCP that are good, too?

 
Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
:welcome:


Welcome to the HLP! I'm too tired to write up a good welcome speech right now. So, the compressed versoin:
Exits... everywhere... blocked... flamethrowers... holy water.... secure lockers...admins..... hyperintelligent Hooloovoos... Carl... lunch... Thank you and enjoy your stay.  :D



OH and I'd try the Into the Depths of Hell series of campaigns. The story's only a third of the way done, but that's like 40 missions or so, so you won't be disappointed.
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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Does anyone still need the fixed derelict missions?

 

Offline Getter Robo G

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Please keep them archived until the vp can get updated.

Hoping someone knows how I can replace cruiser01x pof... I just looked at the Derelict Vp's from Shivan's pack and they say last modified 1/20/06... are these out of date?

l8tr... (in  the mean time I will try the other installed mods and see if I can run them)

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Robotech II - Continuing...
FS2 Trek - Snails move faster than me...
Star Blazers: Journey to Iscandar...
FS GUNDAM - The Myth lives on... :)

 
Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
I'll upload them as requested.

 

Offline ARSPR

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Please keep them archived until the vp can get updated.

Hoping someone knows how I can replace cruiser01x pof... I just looked at the Derelict Vp's from Shivan's pack and they say last modified 1/20/06... are these out of date?

l8tr... (in  the mean time I will try the other installed mods and see if I can run them)


IIRC that replacement is made through a xx-shp.tbm inside media vp. Make sure that your Derelict mod.ini has a right SecondaryList folder list for your mediavps folder. I mean if you have your media vps in "mediavps" folder, make sure you have "SecondaryList= mediavps;".

Also make sure you are using Launcher 5.4.
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

Whoever Hanlon was: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.

Dell Dimension 9200 - Vista 32-bit Ultimate
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz - RAM 2 GB DDR2
nvidia 8800 GTX - Integrated Sigmatel Audio

 

Offline Getter Robo G

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Re: RELEASE - Derelict SCP Edition
Karajorma sorted me out...
   I was using the _R build specified it the read me.. I am now using the 3.6.9exe and it loads fine (just did my first mission). Had the black squares problem though with combat effects, loaded the patches to 3.6.8 media vp's so hopefully will work now...  :D  Will report back if there are problems...

"Don't think of it as being out-numbered, think of it as having a WIDE target selection!"

"I am the one and ONLY Star Dragon..."
Proof for the noobs:  Member Search

[I'm Just an idea guy, NOT: a modeler, texturer, or coder... Word of advice, "Watch out for the ducks!"]

Robotech II - Continuing...
FS2 Trek - Snails move faster than me...
Star Blazers: Journey to Iscandar...
FS GUNDAM - The Myth lives on... :)