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Might be a stupid question but I don't think it is. What do you reckon happened to him?

[Jeff Vader]

Search the forums and you'll find discussion about the subject.

[colecampbell666]

It isn't cannon, but Singh has made a wonderful story on the subject, I'm only halfway through. Look in Fan Art.

[Dark Hunter]

Might be a stupid question but I don't think it is. What do you reckon happened to him?

Not a stupid question... but one of those that nobody besides knows. It's Big Unanswered Question #2, #1 being: "why did the Shivans blow up Capella?"

It would have been addressed in FS3... which of course never came about. So nobody really knows.

[Jeff Vader]

It isn't cannon

Never fear, the grammar inquisition is here. Yet again, a cannon is a big thing that you can shoot with. Like this one.

[Admiral Edivad]

...........What do you reckon happened to him?

.......... So nobody really knows.

So all those who are doing post-capella campaigns can decide it.  

[Dark Hunter]

Exactly. 

[Excalibur]

...........What do you reckon happened to him?

.......... So nobody really knows.

So all those who are doing post-capella campaigns can decide it.  

Capella is too big and vastly spread to post. 

Bosch either got killed, escaped or made an alliancce with the Shivans. Or he could have gotten drunk drinking his own beer.

[Polpolion]

Might be a stupid question but I don't think it is. What do you reckon happened to him?

Not a stupid question... but one of those that nobody besides knows. It's Big Unanswered Question #2, #1 being: "why did the Shivans blow up Capella?"

It would have been addressed in FS3... which of course never came about. So nobody really knows.

I have a feeling that if we knew what happened to Bosch, we'd be able to infer why the Shivans blew up Cappella. Anyway, I would rather know what happened to bosch at least.

[colecampbell666]

Or he could have gotten drunk drinking his own beer.

Bosch: Hey, Ssssharno, ya know whatshhh great?
Sarno: Whatsss 'at?
Bosch: We shudd make a wepern and go ki-ki-kick shome Shivers.
Sarno: Letssh call 'er attack.
Bosch: OI! I'm the one ma-ma-makin the dercissins 'ere. Lets call 'er etak. Attark's to naturll soundin'.
Sarno: Hehehehehe... Letsh call 'er ETAK, like, you know, an acornerm, keep those Gee-Vee-Tee's guessin'

*Both giggle drunkenly*

[BengalTiger]

My theory:
The Capella BBQ was Bosch's idea.
He loaded the Iceni with Bosch Beer, told the Shivans he's comming and ran off to party.
Since the GTVA wasn't invited and wasn't happy about it, the pursuit was on.

Everything else is in the main FS 2 campaign I guess.

[S-99]

I wish bosch hadn't destroyed the iceni. Given the second knossos device going to the binary system. He could have gotten away with his purdy seriously hardened ship.

Bosch obviously made an allliance with the shivans. that's all that's really known. As far for his involvement with the 80 sathani incident, it can be speculated upon.

[Retsof]

...Singh has made a wonderful story on the subject...

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm pretty sure that story is dead, he stopped halfway through and left us all hanging.  I sent him a PM regarding the subject but have gotten no reply.

[Grogs]

how about that the shivans double crossed bosch and bosch is some sort of test subject for the shivans.
The reason for BBQing Cappella....keep us from stopping with their experimaents, cutting us off from them until i was time to strike again.

also, in FS1 i believe, the shivans were referd to as the galaxy's immune system, killing off species thet travel through space, to keep them fromn conquering the entire galaxy.  we beat them twice..maybe they are restradegizing, if that is a word...third time is the charm 

[Jeff Vader]

also, in FS1 i believe, the shivans were referd to as the galaxy's immune system, killing off species thet travel through space, to keep them fromn conquering the entire galaxy.  we beat them twice..maybe they are restradegizing, if that is a word...third time is the charm 

One small detail. It was implied that they annihilate species that travel through subspace. The Ancients conquered the worlds they could reach with 'normal' traveling methods without being disturbed. Only when they discovered subspace and really began to spread through the galaxy did the Shivans interfere.

Also, the Shivans weren't quite 'beaten' in FS2. They blew up a sun and then just vanished. You can't really call that a victory, with all the massive Terran and Vasudan ship losses 'n all. Also, with 80+ Sathanes the Shivans could've eradicated both the Terrans and the Vasudans with one eye closed. This is of course speculation but they must've been planning something, since in normal war you don't just go and blow up a sun when the enemy is clearly outnumbered and outgunned.

Despite this,

[Mars]

The Shivans motives are never explicitly stated and are left to the players interperatation

[colecampbell666]

...Singh has made a wonderful story on the subject...

Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm pretty sure that story is dead, he stopped halfway through and left us all hanging.   I sent him a PM regarding the subject but have gotten no reply.

Someone (Goob?) said that he will continue it if he has time (or something like that). Singh was active on the third, though.

[Titan]

i remember a while back there was this Poll called "what was your favorite part of FS3?" (WTHWTHWTH) one of the options was "finding Bosch as a human/shivan Hybrid" (WTHWTHWTH!!!!)

id say that about sums it up 

[Marcus Vesper]

We could also point out that destroying Capella's sun by making it go supernova didn't actually cut anyone off from anything.  Capella was destroyed sure, but the complete destruction of everything in a system doesn't destroy the subspace nodes leading into and out of the system.  The nebula in Gamma Draconis was surmised to be the remnants of a star that went supernova some time in the past, and nothing prevents travel through it now.  Cutting off Capella was the GTVA's idea.

Explaining the destruction of Capella by attributing fear of the GTVA to the Shivans is a terrible cop out, and goes against everything we know about them as well as the observable facts.  The anomaly they caused, the means they used to jump out (and where they were going), and their motives for doing so are utterly alien from a human or vasudan viewpoint, as are the shivans themselves.

Giving the shivans human qualities like fear, or interpreting their motivations in human terms is doing them a great injustice.  The Shivans are terrifying not merely because they are xenophobic and overwhelmingly powerful, but because we know nothing about how they think, or why they act as they do.

[TrashMan]

And how did one get from GD to the nebula?

KNOSSOS PORTAL... maby supernovas DO collapse all nodes....freaky