[eliex]

 Not exactly sure how to address this, because I have rather shaky information to begin off my bit.

Anyway, ignoring that, in Derelict it mentions that the GTVA are rather scared of opening the jump node to Capella again because of the
Shivan threat that lies behind - not the fighters but the ol' 80 Sathanai ( but quite a lot of Sathanai were destroyed in the supernova!)

Okay. we are now talking about several decades after the Capella incident, I'm not sure on how long it takes for the system to recover after their star has gone supernova, but do you think that the GTVA would want to  repopulate the system, not to mention that there are no planets around or asteroids?

              DA-DUM: Will the Shivans return and when the GTVA reaches Capella the system is Mordor in Lord of the Rings . . . 

[Admiral_Stones]

Assuming Cappellas sun BOOMed up, I see no possibility of human life in that wasteland.
And the planets are molten away anyway.

[Snail]

Unless GTVA ascends to a new level of stupidity, the node won't be opened by the Terrans.

[G0atmaster]

Well, there is literally nothing there anymore.  I had always speculated that the nebula past the first Knossos was the remnant of a previous use of the Shivan Solar System Buster ^TM.  There are no planets or resources in there, so why go back in?  Plus, there's always the threat of impending doom to keep you away, and if that doesn't get you, the fact that there are no more open jump nodes will!

[ns161]

Unless GTVA ascends to a new level of stupidity, the node won't be opened by the Terrans.

So given Command's normal level of genius you figure what?  About 10 years or so for them to reach that level of idiocy?

"Command are you sure we should be opening this node?"

"Sure, we'll just take a quick peek and then leave..."

"OK..."

***Node Opens***

"OH MY GOD!!! COMMAND DID YOU KNOW THERE WERE JUGGERNAUTS IN CAPELLA!?"

"Oh yeah...did we forget to mention that?"

[FUBAR-BDHR]

The only viable way the GTVA should even think about doing it would be if they developed the technology to control the Knossos.  Basically if they could start it up and shut it down at will. 

[Snail]

What kind of a retard... No, worse than retard, would open a door, behind which is an army of evil killing machines that are hellbent on killing everyone? Command? No. Not even HE is that numb in the head.

[Admiral_Stones]

But sure are they numb enough to let in 80 Juggies which are equivalent to a Octillion of evil killing machine armys hellbent on killing everyone.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

If they could control the Knossos would they want to send a scouting party to the system to see what happened to the other jump node(s)?  It's possible the Shivan's were trying to collapse the nodes as well.

[eliex]

 In essence, what reason is there to say that the Shivans would have left the nebula? Freaky as it sounds that anyone would
actually like to live in a nebula . . .

[TrashMan]

Maby becouse it's SUPER-HOT and would melt your ships in an instant?
After a few hundered or thousand years, when it expands and cools off, then maby. But there's nothing there except nebula gases.
All those shivans ships have to come from somewhere so I doubt they don't have a factory somewhere...

[AlphaOne]

Ppl i think you foget that Capella went nova and that NOTHING is left there! Shivan ships can not survive a supernova no matter how fat they look.

[Admiral_Stones]

Hmm. I guess when already a Deimos and Moloch can survive the first blast, a 1'000'000 HP Sathanas may survive the nova from some distance.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

What if they didn't leave but just lurked in hyperspace?  After the blast they could reemerge on the edge of the nebula.  Fresh nebula gases = Shivan smorgasboard?

[TrashMan]

Hmm. I guess when already a Deimos and Moloch can survive the first blast, a 1'000'000 HP Sathanas may survive the nova from some distance.

Both ships were vaporized. PLANETS can't survive a supernova and they are a LOT bigger than a Sath. And I bet they got a lot more HP's to boot

[Kie99]

What if they didn't leave but just lurked in hyperspace?  After the blast they could reemerge on the edge of the nebula.  Fresh nebula gases = Shivan smorgasboard?

What was left would be extremely hot for some time.

[eliex]

 It'd be just like Gamma Draconis wouldn't it? Nothing there but cold empty space . . .
Very cold too, because there's no SUN!!

[Kie99]

 It'd be just like Gamma Draconis wouldn't it? Nothing there but cold empty space . . .
Very cold too, because there's no SUN!!

No, there'd be a nebula from the Supernova.  It would be extremely hot because there's just been a Supernova.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Wouldn't it depend on what type of star?  Did it totally vaporize and turn into a nebula, expand and collapse (kind of like the sun will some day), or even collapse in on itself to form a black hole? 

On the other hand could the Shivans want that superheated gas for some reason.  Maybe that's why there's nothing in Gamma Draconis they mined it all. 

[eliex]

No, there'd be a nebula from the Supernova.  It would be extremely hot because there's just been a Supernova.

 Oh yeah . . . nebulas over time becomes stars right?