[blowfish]

A Ravana would pretty much PWN an orion too...

[Jeff Vader]

Unless, of course, the Orion manages to sneak up and surprise the Ravana from behind.

[The Spac]

Gotta love it, someone always brings up the unless it sneaks up from behind. I have yet to see this in any user made campaign. So I am wondering does this even ever happen or is it just a theoretical situation :-D

[Jeff Vader]

I think it's just theory at this point, but why not? The Ravana pwnz everything in front of it because of how the weapons are placed, so it's just natural to assume that it won't survive an attack from behind.

[Snail]

I think it's just theory at this point, but why not? The Ravana pwnz everything in front of it because of how the weapons are placed, so it's just natural to assume that it won't survive an attack from behind.

Turn.

[Jeff Vader]

I think it's just theory at this point, but why not? The Ravana pwnz everything in front of it because of how the weapons are placed, so it's just natural to assume that it won't survive an attack from behind.

Turn.

Still takes time.

[The Spac]

I think it's just theory at this point, but why not? The Ravana pwnz everything in front of it because of how the weapons are placed, so it's just natural to assume that it won't survive an attack from behind.

Turn.

Still takes time.

Helm, Engage subspace drives, same coords, just turn us around.

lmao I think I'm gonna use this in one of my campaigns I am fiddling with.

[AlphaOne]

well the ravana wa taken down by a wing of bommbers and a covette so...that saya a lot about the all powerfull shivan destroyer. Actualy the Demon ios a much better destroyer then the ravana because of its all round firepower.

Ppl remember the fact that the true power of the GTVA are its fighter/bommber compliments and tacttics.

The Orion is one of the Best destroyers in game because it can dish out considereable amount of damage  from its beam while at the same time unleash bommber and fighters to take out enemy ships.

Basicly a rvana can be defanged so easy its almost ridiculous. And its larger fighterbay doesnt actualy help her that much. The orion can stand its ground against almost anyhting in game. The Vasudan Hatshepsut is a close second almost on equal footing with the Orion.

[BengalTiger]

Actually Hattie beats Orion...
Make a simple mission, Orion vs Hatshepsut, rotate them into a random heading, beam free all and watch the fight.
And I don't have to say that the Orion's antibomber defenses suck...

[AlphaOne]

Are you on drugs or somethin??? The orion ca bring to bear at least 2 BGreens and 1 or  2 terslashers while the hattie is lucky if it can get 2 slashers to fire at the Orion. So how can a Hattie beat and Orion? Hell even head on the Hattie would lose 1 BGreen and 1 slasher agains what 3 or 4 BGreens and 2 slashers???


Also the fact that the Orions antifighter/bommber defences is true !

[blowfish]

The Hatshepsut doesn't have Slashers.  See here

Orion:
3 BGreen
3 TerSlash

Hatshepsut:
3BVas
1 SVas

The Orion has a little more firepower (I am pretty sure an SVas is better than a TerSlash), but the Hatty has more HP.  It definitely depends on the angle.  If the Orion is above the Hatshepsut, the Orion will be murdered.  But most other sides are considerably weaker.

[BengalTiger]

The Hatshepsut can use:
3x BVas when the target is above, 2 BVas+ 1SVas forward, 1 to 3 BVas, and sometimes SVas against targets on it's sides, 1 BVas to the rear, and 1 SVas against targets below.
When the target gets closer than 2 000 meters away, there are 5 Fusion mortars that can open fire if it's in the field of view.
Below 1400 meters 11 Standard Flak guns could join the fun (and Flak shells do 200 hull damage per second- vs 173 Maxim- IF the flak bullet explodes less than 20 meters away from it's target- not really hard against a destroyer).

The Orion wins easily only if it's below the Hat, assuming that the 2 Fusion Mortars below the nose don't kill it's BGreens (and sometimes they do), unless it's lucky enough to disarm a BVas or two...

[AlphaOne]

Ups sorry was thinking about the Hecate.

Wasnt there a mission done by someone with and Orion vs. a Hattie? The orion won 3 to the Hatties 2 ??

[BengalTiger]

Well, when I did my test the ships were randomly placed and rotated every time and given a single order to attack each other. Here's how the last one looked like:


Hatshepsut generally wins (3 wins, 1 loss, 1 tie with both ships killed), it once had 48%HP left after the fight.

Therefore:
the Hattie has a heavy firepower advantage above the Orion more/less like the Orion is superior to the Hecate.

P.S. But comparing the Orion with a GVD Typhon (so the ships are from the same era) I don't have to say who pwns who...

[The Spac]

Can't believe you were testing that. Good to know tho I like Vasudan ships mostly well theri Capital ships anyway and their heavy fighter.

[Hades]

But don't dislike the Orion for not being able to destroy a Hatsheput because for gods sake it is over 50+ ****ing years.

[Polpolion]

The Hippocrates owns everyone. It can flak the Aeolus to death, it can Piranha the Deimos to death, it can beam the sathanas to death, it can do it all. You can't beat the Hippocrates.

You see, had to tone the Hippocrates down, because in the mission "The Sixth Wonder", it kept on going traitor and blowing up enif station, the hawkwood, the cato, and even the colossus when it jumped in. So they toned it down to a medical cruiser's role.

[Jeff Vader]

The Hippocrates owns everyone. It can flak the Aeolus to death, it can Piranha the Deimos to death, it can beam the sathanas to death, it can do it all. You can't beat the Hippocrates.

You see, had to tone the Hippocrates down, because in the mission "The Sixth Wonder", it kept on going traitor and blowing up enif station, the hawkwood, the cato, and even the colossus when it jumped in. So they toned it down to a medical cruiser's role.

I'm guessing the original High Noon was something along the lines of "The Colossus and the Sathanas prepare for a final showdown when suddenly Chuck Norris a Hippocrates class ship jumps on the scene and pwnz everyone".

[TrashMan]

You know, they did say the Orion was partially designed by Chuck Norris.. that's why it pwns.

[Snail]

You know, they did say the Orion was partially designed by Chuck Norris.. that's why it pwns.

DAMN! There goes my campaign!!