Author Topic: W-H-I-Y-L - boom shake-shake shake the-room. (Read 4021742 times)

Aardwolf · **Reply #28660 on:** October 28, 2014, 02:06:17 pm

Trauma.

Lurk mode activated.

Lorric · **Reply #28661 on:** October 28, 2014, 02:16:17 pm

Quote from: Aardwolf on October 28, 2014, 02:06:17 pm

Trauma.

Lurk mode activated.

Whatever it is, good luck.

Grizzly · **Reply #28662 on:** October 28, 2014, 05:03:42 pm

This internet connection is becoming more consistent!
Unfortunately, it's getting consistently terrible. 10 kb/s on average! Yeah!

TechnoD11 · **Reply #28663 on:** October 28, 2014, 07:54:10 pm

Klaustrophobia · **Reply #28664 on:** October 28, 2014, 11:44:57 pm

deathfun · **Reply #28665 on:** October 29, 2014, 12:14:24 am

...Why is the grade for that A+?

OH **** THAT'S IN MEGA BITS
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL ****

YOU ON FIBRE OR SOMETHING?

Scotty · **Reply #28666 on:** October 29, 2014, 01:16:17 am

Fiber (of the Google variety) is theoretically that. Not practically. That city shouldn't have Fiber yet anyway. Provo, Austin, and Kansas City are the initial cities.

Grizzly · **Reply #28667 on:** October 29, 2014, 01:39:19 am

The worst is that we are *supposed* to have fibre here, but the infrastructure in the building is absolutely pooor.

(Also, the previous owner of te flat may have lied to us)

Colonol Dekker · **Reply #28668 on:** October 29, 2014, 02:02:31 am

That's faster than usb 2.0!!

Klaustrophobia · **Reply #28669 on:** October 29, 2014, 02:55:32 am

I have fiber (verizon fios) and only get 25. they sell it up to 300, but **** if i'm paying for that. it's already stupid expensive just for the 25 and cable at about $120.

Hobbie · **Reply #28670 on:** October 29, 2014, 11:25:04 am

Saw the Protomen last night in Seattle.

I knew I flew all the way out here for something...

Sololop · **Reply #28671 on:** October 29, 2014, 02:14:19 pm

I don't understand fibre optic internet. I get 20 download speed from my ISP, and if I upgrade to fibre, it's something like 40 or 60, or expensive if you want 100 or something. But aren't regular cables capable of putting 40, or even 100 down speed? The whole fibre cable thing seems like a marketing scam. I know fibre can handle more data, but the ISP's don't seem like they're coming anywhere close to using it to it's actual potential.

AdmiralRalwood · **Reply #28672 on:** October 29, 2014, 03:14:17 pm

Quote from: Klaustrophobia on October 29, 2014, 02:55:32 am

only get 25. they sell it up to 300

Quote from: Sololop on October 29, 2014, 02:14:19 pm

20 download speed[...]something like 40 or 60, or expensive if you want 100 or something[...]40, or even 100 down speed

We talking mbps or MB/s?

TechnoD11 · **Reply #28673 on:** October 29, 2014, 03:58:37 pm

Well now that the shock has (somewhat) passed, I'll just shed some light on my internet connection.
1st: Yes that is legit, no hacks, photoshops, etc. Real deal
2nd: I am on a Fiber to the premises (aka fiber to the home) connection.
3rd: I do not live in Boston. I live quite a bit farther away from the city, but the Comcast speedtest server in Boston is the only one I have tested that is able to maintain my advertised internet speed (1.0Gb/s down, 400 Mb/s up)

Also, although I am not an expert in networking, I do believe the reason for fiber to the home connections over typical coaxial or twisted pair cable is less interference, and thus greater range. To elaborate, fiber has a much larger data throughput retention rate than the aforementioned wiring types. You might hear of research being done by say, Bell labs, where they state that they have hit some extreme data throughput like 100Gb/s on twisted pair, but in reality, the amount of power required to maintain that signal is very high, and the distance at which they can maintain that level of throughput is very short. Thus, your standard coaxial or twisted pair line will greatly lose its throughput the farther it has to travel. Fiber, for the most part, does not have these problems.

tl;dr fiber is more cost effective because it is future proof, takes less power, and has better signal retention over long distances.

niffiwan · **Reply #28674 on:** October 29, 2014, 04:40:37 pm

+1 to that.

At work we're about to install equipment that'll run 10GbE over 50-60 km's using single mode fibre. The copper twinax connections which can do the same speed are only good for 5 metres (admittedly the fibre connections cost a *lot* more than the twinax cables).

Sololop · **Reply #28675 on:** October 29, 2014, 04:48:10 pm

Quote from: TechnoD11 on October 29, 2014, 03:58:37 pm

Well now that the shock has (somewhat) passed, I'll just shed some light on my internet connection.
1st: Yes that is legit, no hacks, photoshops, etc. Real deal
2nd: I am on a Fiber to the premises (aka fiber to the home) connection.
3rd: I do not live in Boston. I live quite a bit farther away from the city, but the Comcast speedtest server in Boston is the only one I have tested that is able to maintain my advertised internet speed (1.0Gb/s down, 400 Mb/s up)

Also, although I am not an expert in networking, I do believe the reason for fiber to the home connections over typical coaxial or twisted pair cable is less interference, and thus greater range. To elaborate, fiber has a much larger data throughput retention rate than the aforementioned wiring types. You might hear of research being done by say, Bell labs, where they state that they have hit some extreme data throughput like 100Gb/s on twisted pair, but in reality, the amount of power required to maintain that signal is very high, and the distance at which they can maintain that level of throughput is very short. Thus, your standard coaxial or twisted pair line will greatly lose its throughput the farther it has to travel. Fiber, for the most part, does not have these problems.

tl;dr fiber is more cost effective because it is future proof, takes less power, and has better signal retention over long distances.

Okay, that's all good to know actually. And to the other above post, it's mbps, sorry for the confusion there. However, I checked, and my DL speed is 20 mbps down. One ISP in my area offers 200 mpbs down on regular cables, the other offers 250 mpbs down, but on fibreop. Obviously, the 200 mpbs down is cheaper than the fibreop, but not by very much. I just wish I had cheaper ISP's in my area. My 20 mpbs down speed is costing $60 per month.

deathfun · **Reply #28676 on:** October 29, 2014, 05:35:27 pm

Quote from: niffiwan on October 29, 2014, 04:40:37 pm

+1 to that.

At work we're about to install equipment that'll run 10GbE over 50-60 km's using single mode fibre. The copper twinax connections which can do the same speed are only good for 5 metres (admittedly the fibre connections cost a *lot* more than the twinax cables).

Like all tech that's fresh and new, it's always expensive. Curve TVs with 4k resolution? Hella expensive, but like flat screens back in the day it'll drop and soon be cheap as dirt.

Grizzly · **Reply #28677 on:** October 29, 2014, 05:45:18 pm

No it won't.
Becauese nobody in their right minds would buy a curved TV, and those things are not worth the costs of transporting them or the space in teh showrooms.

niffiwan · **Reply #28678 on:** October 29, 2014, 06:06:23 pm

Quote from: deathfun on October 29, 2014, 05:35:27 pm

Quote from: niffiwan on October 29, 2014, 04:40:37 pm
+1 to that.

At work we're about to install equipment that'll run 10GbE over 50-60 km's using single mode fibre. The copper twinax connections which can do the same speed are only good for 5 metres (admittedly the fibre connections cost a *lot* more than the twinax cables).

Like all tech that's fresh and new, it's always expensive. Curve TVs with 4k resolution? Hella expensive, but like flat screens back in the day it'll drop and soon be cheap as dirt.

Actually I doubt it'll come down in price much more because its not a consumer product my work is using (haha! Who want to buy 4x 10GbE CWDM optics modules to use for your home internet?), ergo you don't get the benefits of selling a bajillion units to make the same profit.

deathfun · **Reply #28679 on:** October 29, 2014, 08:47:51 pm

Quote from: -Joshua- on October 29, 2014, 05:45:18 pm

No it won't.
Becauese nobody in their right minds would buy a curved TV, and those things are not worth the costs of transporting them or the space in teh showrooms.

Naysayer

But my point was more about the 4k resolution, less so curved. Things get better, they release expensive, time goes by, they get cheaper, everyone upgrades, repeat

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