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Offline shiv

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Awesomness! Downloading now! :D ;7
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
You mean the flickering things behind secondary thruster glows, right? I was also encountering them while working on TBP thrusters glows. I think it has something to with the way the engine handles UV transformation on the secondary glows, because the flickering things seem to be remnants of the glow image wrapped around (in UV space) to the other end of the glow. I know this sounds confusing, but what I mean is that if you make the left-most row of pixels in the glow image (the left side is the one near the thruster) completely black, the flickering disappears.
So I think that left-most row of pixels somehow ends up partially on the other end of the effect ingame, maybe due to some rounding error in the UV transformation process ?!?


Oh we've tried that. In fact the thrusters in these VP's do have that one pixel buffer zone on their left edge but while it seems to reduce the flickering, the bloody thing still appears in certain conditions which seem to largely depend on the positions of moon and the planets as far as we can tell. It's a very inconsistent persistent bug, the worst kind of bug possible.

And regardless, fixing code/driver bugs by editing content is pretty much analog to breaking web pages to make Internet Explorer show them correctly - not a good idea in general... :nervous:
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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Ah ok, then we're all equally stumped ;) And I agree that it should be solved code-wise, because it shouldn't happen in the first place, even when the left edge pixels are not black.
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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Hey, I got some awesome screenshots from these new mediavps.

For these 2 you gotta take a good look:



This one's the best:


Hashes are correct, and they match the ones posted on the first page. It's only the Shivan beams that are freaking out.

On the other hand, terran and vasudan beam effect edges appear too big for the beamglows, as I can see those edges. But the Shivan ones are more serious than that...

 

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What's the first two supposed to be?

 

Offline ShadowGorrath

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Dark cubes around the bitmaps.

 

Offline Stormkeeper

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Morning Star is the first, Lamprey the second. It's written in the screenshot, lower right corner.
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Right, more proof that I can't read. This case is really starting to be stacked against me :p

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Yeah, looking through the MV_Effects.vp reveals some irrelevant files that have slipped through the net (unused shivan beamglow [S_BeamGlow.dds] and terran beam textures beam-green*) as well as a bunch of ani files that still aren't converted to EFF/DDS format... Oh well, work to do for the future MediaVP's. :rolleyes:

What comes to those strange faint boxes, I'm not sure what's up with them. Certainly they aren't ideally made effects, but I can't help but wonder if they are still intentionally as they are, even despite the, eh, strange design. In-game they are only visible if you stop the game and look real close at the weapon effects; otherwise they create a faint glow.

I'm leaving this for someone who has done something with the weapon effects before and perhaps even knows what's going on with them.

The Shivan beam looks like some texture gets consistently corrupted during caching for some reason I can't really fathom. The files are intact on the VP, since hashes match, but something goes wrong during the process from HD to display, but what exactly causes it is a difficult question...
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Excelent. Trying to download now.

 

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WOW! Too bad my current computer can't even run FS2. Gotta wait for Christmas..!!
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Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
For anyone that's interested my MediaVP standalone is now running these.
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Oh my god!  :eek: I didn't think Christmas was for another 3 weeks....

This is the best Christmas present anybody could give me!!!

Thanks to everybody that contributed!!
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Offline Shade

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Looks very nice indeed from what I've seen so far on a quick test run :yes:
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This is wooonderful!! Thanks to the whole FSU team :yes:

 

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Me love you long time.

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Sadly, the downloads don't support the resume option. This is bad because I'll never be able to DL big files without experiencing any connection problems that force me to restart the DL. :(
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Offline SF-Junky

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
FAN-TAS-TIC!! :jaw: That was about time. :D

I've got the same problem as ShadowGorrath with the shivan beams and all my missiles have the same, grey trail. But besides those small bugs it's just... whoa! Especially the HTL Iceni...

 
Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Oh, by the way, something makes me think the Music in this MediaVP package has somehow downgraded from the one in the Beta package.

(It has.)
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