Author Topic: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED [Updated V1.4]  (Read 249040 times)

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Offline dragonsniper

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Do you have the latest version of the Freespace Port? Just guessing here.
If it's 3.1, yes I do. Aaargg. Very frustrating. :mad: I've heard very good things about this. Time to try Lobo's way. Thanks for the help. :)
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Do you have the latest version of the Freespace Port? Just guessing here.
If it's 3.1, yes I do. Aaargg.
It's 3.1.1, actually. You might want to download the updated stuff. The files that have changed from 3.1 are the core VP, the missions VP, the sparky_hi_fs1 VP, and the FSPort media VP.
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
The Navigation subsystem used to do that...but they 'fixed' it. I use quotations because I'm more likely to believe that they purposely broke it. It made sense that you couldn't jump when your nav computer is dead. Now it makes no sense that it does nothing whatsoever...
The navigation subsystem never did anything, but there's now an ai profiles option to make it control warping out.

Um, is there possibly a radar icons build around recent enough to avoid the Vasudan command issue. Because I REALLY like the radar icons now that I have them. It's like I actually get a silhouette of what's on radar.
Try the Recent/Nightly Build forum.

The last mission [...] doesnt load with debug build.
It does load; you just have to click through the debug warnings.

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Oh? I thought that knocking it below 30% would break the warp. (At least, it did when the one on my fighter died).
Well alright then...time to figure out this AI profile thing.
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Oh? I thought that knocking it below 30% would break the warp. (At least, it did when the one on my fighter died).
That's what it does when the ai profiles option is activated.

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Actually, I found the last mission quite easy when I took an

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Ursa with Harbingers, since a single Harbinger will take out any of the Hades' beam turrets in one shot.  Plus, when you only have two in a bank, they rearm quite quickly.
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That's what I did, but I had a bank of Tsunamis and a bank of Harbingers (don't ask me why, but I wanted more than just four Harbingers). Sometime after blowing up all the beam turrets, My bomber was down to 8% hull integrity. So I camped behind the Soyakaze for almost the rest of the mission. Then when the Hades started up it's engine, I went around and put a Harbinger into it. But then, take a guess on what happened. :lol: :mad:

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Did you remember to equalise your shield? You should have more than enough time to get out of the danger zone.
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Did anyone who took an Ursa in the last mission find it hard to defend the Soyakaze?  How much of a threat were the bombers?

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
The Soyakaze is nothing but a massive liability in that mission. Doesn't even contribute to the damage in any noticable way. :/
Never understood why it actually jumped in rather than launch its bombers from a safe distance.
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Did anyone who took an Ursa in the last mission find it hard to defend the Soyakaze?  How much of a threat were the bombers?

You were fighting Zeus bombers in that mission. The worst bombers in the entire fleet.

Not much of a threat, is all I can say. They went down like flies.

 

Offline ShivanSpS

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Did anyone who took an Ursa in the last mission find it hard to defend the Soyakaze?  How much of a threat were the bombers?

Well there is a thick to bug the Zeus in the Hades hangar bay, launch at one of them a Harpoon from a side of the hanger before they made exit, one or two of them will try to go for you but they will just crash with the walls of the hangar, with kill it slowly.... makeing a fair high amount of time betwing waves :P

The Soyakaze did nothing to the mission just an addicional target, but well is better to have the Orion than the Fenris alone .P



 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Btw, Goober, any idea on when the HTL Hades can be released?  :nervous:

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
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When you guys were bugfixing "He Who Rides The Tiger", did you mess around with the message timing at all? Gamma 1's line of "Something landed on my fighter" is no longer audible; it appears in the message buffer, but over the com, she simply screams and explodes. I've replayed the mission on a couple of different builds and with different sound loading options, but with the same results. I know this wasn't broken in the initial release; I had to replay that mission several times, and it's the only real hint you get that there's a Shivan on your fighter.
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
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When you guys were bugfixing "He Who Rides The Tiger", did you mess around with the message timing at all? Gamma 1's line of "Something landed on my fighter" is no longer audible; it appears in the message buffer, but over the com, she simply screams and explodes. I've replayed the mission on a couple of different builds and with different sound loading options, but with the same results. I know this wasn't broken in the initial release; I had to replay that mission several times, and it's the only real hint you get that there's a Shivan on your fighter.

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Perhaps Gamma 1 was already damaged when the Shivan landed on her fighter, so she blew up faster.

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
The Soyakaze is nothing but a massive liability in that mission.
The Soyakaze did nothing to the mission
The Soyakaze is a communications relay...

I had intended it to be much harder to preserve the Soyakaze if you took an Ursa, since it's (theoretically) harder for an Ursa to intercept bombers.  Guess I wasn't entirely successful.


Btw, Goober, any idea on when the HTL Hades can be released?  :nervous:
You should be asking Vasudan Admiral, not me.


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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Did anyone who took an Ursa in the last mission find it hard to defend the Soyakaze?  How much of a threat were the bombers?

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The Soyakaze was easy to defend, I just assigned all the most of the fighter wings to protect it (not the bombers). Then I realized my mistake, when the Orff went boom. I obviously didn't give it enough wings. So it seems that one ship can be saved without you having to defend yourself, but you won't save both.

So with all that fighter cover I didn't have to defend the Soyakaze myself at all. The fighter wings did all the work, with me only having to shake the occasional Loki off my tail. (which on medium difficulty in an Ursa actually isn't that hard)

Another thing when I was playing that, once when I got really close to the Hades to bomb it, a Loki got in my way. I didn't see it till the last minute, so I launched a Harbinger. You can guess what happened next. "The Loki died a fiery death of course." WRONG. It hardly got damaged.

Whats up with that?

EDIT: I've been thinking, and I realized that when you take an Ursa, the Hades goes down so fast the bombers don't have time to kill the Soyakaze. The Orff is a different story however.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2009, 02:22:36 am by Grimper »
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Tested the new upload a couple of times. No change.
We have returned to continue our purification of this galaxy. It is again your turn to be crushed beneath the great force that is the Antaran army. All your petty squabbling with the other beings in this galaxy is meaningless. The Antaran fleet will destroy you all, one by one. You may not surrender. You cannot win. Your only option is death.

 

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It does load; you just have to click through the debug warnings.
Nope.. it wont... It - eventually - hits an assert and kicks you out of the game.
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Assert: sip->subsystems[j].model_num == sip->model_num
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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
I had intended it to be much harder to preserve the Soyakaze if you took an Ursa, since it's (theoretically) harder for an Ursa to intercept bombers.  Guess I wasn't entirely successful.
I went with the default loadout for that mission, and I found that I had to divert my attention to protecting the Soyakaze at one point, as it was racking up quite a bit of damage.  (I think it was somewhere around 20% when the Hades finally went up.)  I could see the mission being a bit harder in an Ursa, since it wouldn't have been as easy to track down the bomber wings when I needed to.

 

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Re: SILENT THREAT: REBORN RELEASED
Just completed another playthrough, and here's some stuff I noticed offhand:

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- "Fury#Shivan" appears in the weapons list in the tech database, and has no information.

- In "Ghosts", your wingmen don't provide a vocal acknowledgement to your orders, and you can't call for a support ship. Is your mission so secret that you can't rearm?  :p

- The message/timing issue I've already mentioned with "He Who Rides The Tiger". Additionally, if you order your wingmen to destroy the Ratna after its IFF turns hostile, they totally will, because they're cool.  :D

- Do you have to destroy the access doors on Deep Space Nine the Karnak in "Blood of the Innocent" in order to reach the reactor? I went down two separate arms of the station and got stuck, until I noticed Sneak blowing something up before it made its way in...

- Certain missions don't include recommendations in their debriefings when they probably should. For example, it's noted in "Cloak and Dagger" if you manage to save all the escape pods from the Talus facility, but if you fail to rescue them, you never hear about it and no recommendations are given on how to improve your performance, so a player may not realize it's possible to save them all. Similarly, it's possible to save the Hirschel (or not) in "Abandon Hope", but you hear nothing about it one way or the other. Is the Bosch Beer more important?

Some lore questions:

- What happened to Admiral Glaive? We never see him again after "Forced Hand". Is he supposed to be aboard the Hades?

- Did fighters from the Repulse destroy the Vasudan research convoy in "More Than Meets the Eye"? "Ghosts" seems to imply this, but the campaign never provides a firm explanation.

- What happened to the transport that went missing at the end of "The Wait"?

- The debriefing for "Abandon Hope" suggests that your scans may reveal why the Hades's engines were able to come back online, but this does not happen in "Last Stand". Is it because they have Shivan stuff in them? Also, your scans of the Hades fighterbay "alarm" intelligence, but this is never elaborated upon. Is this just a nod to people who have played the original "Secrets Revealed"?

Done nitpicking for now.  :D
« Last Edit: January 05, 2009, 07:22:05 pm by Antares »
We have returned to continue our purification of this galaxy. It is again your turn to be crushed beneath the great force that is the Antaran army. All your petty squabbling with the other beings in this galaxy is meaningless. The Antaran fleet will destroy you all, one by one. You may not surrender. You cannot win. Your only option is death.