[Hellstryker]

Well if you only played the first few missions, it's apparent why you didn't like it   The action picks up after the first few, which is when it really gets good   The first few missions are just there to establish backstory.

I got up to the point of the other species (Vishnan?) battling the thing that looks like a Sathanas but bigger. Anyway, I didn't necessarily want to go off-topic.


Link to the Orion:

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen0005nf3.jpg

Uh, that's like the second to last mission, lol.

[SPECTRE87]

Updated: I've killed off about 9000-10000 polygons and started to divide the finer details into sections. But what about the wreckage, how do I approach that part of the model?   

As for the engines, I made them as they are because I found the original design very boring and unconvincing, so I tried to do something different which was still somewhat true to the original concept.

[Rodo]

well I like your engine desing so much better than the one we have now, the only problem with the one you've made will be the engine glow intersecting the hull, with your desing it will become insanely obvious.

[peterv]

...what about the wreckage, how do I approach that part of the model?   

There are different approaches. Mine, is to imagine how the debris would be if the ship was exploded from the inside (smaller pieces for the center, more crumpied shapes for inner parts off the periphery).
However you will get the idea(s) by using this tool :
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/twisted-infinities-va/modviw32_high_limits.zip
Among other things, it shows all the Lods, including the debris.

Also i suggest you to read this :
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,37158.0.html
(provided that you'll ignore the "this is a game not an art show" part. 

[Commander Zane]

DO FREAKING WANT!!!

[Galemp]

But what about the wreckage, how do I approach that part of the model?   

Don't touch it. The model wants to be textured before you make debris.

[Bobboau]

yeah, you approach that by having a finished main hull first, then you cut it into chunks. but it needs to be textured first.

[Snail]

One suggestion, take into account the position of the docking point. It's on the bottom of the front thing, where the upper block sticks out.

[Flaser]

Updated: I've killed off about 9000-10000 polygons and started to divide the finer details into sections. But what about the wreckage, how do I approach that part of the model?   

As for the engines, I made them as they are because I found the original design very boring and unconvincing, so I tried to do something different which was still somewhat true to the original concept.

I think the engine just feels a tad "small" now. If you could scale them up - by moving the whole block toward the bow - then the sense of "balance" would be restored. The Orions have huge engines. It's that hugeness that still struggles to move a 2 km long tower of battle steel is what made the ship so "immense" for me.

[Hades]

Hmm, I don't remember that middle main turret being there (One on the top).

[Droid803]

It isn't there on the normal Orion.
The Orion has 3 on the top and 2 on the bottom.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Which reminds me, it might be a good thing to change the big triple-barreled turret under the nose. It did fine in FS1, but it's a beam turret in FS2. IMHO, beam turrets shouldn't look like naval artillery guns.

[Snail]

Which reminds me, it might be a good thing to change the big triple-barreled turret under the nose. It did fine in FS1, but it's a beam turret in FS2. IMHO, beam turrets shouldn't look like naval artillery guns.

Agreed.


And please don't add extra turrets. I hate upgunned 'HTL-izations'.

[Dilmah G]

Which reminds me, it might be a good thing to change the big triple-barreled turret under the nose. It did fine in FS1, but it's a beam turret in FS2. IMHO, beam turrets shouldn't look like naval artillery guns.

Agreed.


And please don't add extra turrets. I hate upgunned 'HTL-izations'.

Mmm, I suppose, especially when it fixes the Achilles heel of a specific ship so it can no longer be exploited...eg if someone added Flak turrets to the front of a deimos I would totally start a flamewar.

[kalnaren]

Which reminds me, it might be a good thing to change the big triple-barreled turret under the nose. It did fine in FS1, but it's a beam turret in FS2. IMHO, beam turrets shouldn't look like naval artillery guns.

Agreed.


And please don't add extra turrets. I hate upgunned 'HTL-izations'.

I think upgunning a ship is fine, so long as it can be completely explained why said change was made. I always thought the destroyers in FS2 (and expecially FS1) were undergunned, but hey that's just me.

[blowfish]

Any ship bearing additional turrets shall be vetoed.  Or at least the additional turrets deleted before it is added to the mediavps.  Basically you aren't allowed to change the balancing of the main FS campaign.  Also, that turret under the nose bears flak often enough to justify it being left alone.  IIRC there was alredy a discussion about something like that.  If you want to create upgunned or modified versions, that's fine. but the one that goes in the mediavps must be true to the original.

[Commander Zane]

I think upgunning a ship is fine, so long as it can be completely explained why said change was made. I always thought the destroyers in FS2 (and expecially FS1) were undergunned, but hey that's just me.

100% agree, consequently my current weapon table mods help to compensate that though with immense fire rates and velocities.

[Galemp]

Which reminds me, it might be a good thing to change the big triple-barreled turret under the nose. It did fine in FS1, but it's a beam turret in FS2. IMHO, beam turrets shouldn't look like naval artillery guns.

I'm with Blowfish--that turret definitely needs to be in the same style as the old ones for the MVPs, but an alternate model with only that one turret modified might be a nice user mod.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

That turret definitely needs to be in the same style as the old ones for the MVPs.

Isn't it possible to fix it in the next release and add this model only then?

Don't get me wrong, I do like the triple-barreled artillery guns, but it's just ridiculous as a beam turret.

[SPECTRE87]

Well I didn't add the Alternate label in the topic title for nothing 

I've always felt that FS capital ships were massively under-armed compared to their respected size and just thought that if any really wanted to "improve" the game they would also be dealing with this issue. The Shivans already got the most powerful weapons in the game and their current firepower would still out preform up-armed GTVA ships. But who am I to propose this...