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Offline -Norbert-

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Yay, thanks :D. And there I always though I was the worst voice of all AoA...
Guess it's the old thing with hearing your own voice as others hear it :lol:

 

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You little f|_|ckers...
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[23:24] <mura> ;___;
[23:24] <mura> duuuude
[23:24] <mura> ****ing tevs
[23:24] <Fury`> ?
[23:25] <mura> good thing the blister in my finger has almost healed, or it would have exploded on the joystick
[23:25] <@Battuta> you beat it mura?
[23:25] <mura> manly tears moisturize my eyes...
[23:25] <@Battuta> you gotta post your reactions on the forum man
[23:25] <mura> i don't feel like i have beaten anything
[23:25] <@Battuta> rest of team has to see!
[23:26] <mura> you ****ers! you almost made me cry!
[23:26] <mura> i'm still trembling with anger T__T
[23:26] <@Battuta> tell the foruuuum
[23:26] <@Battuta> tell everything!
[23:26] <@Battuta> team must hear!
[23:26] <@Dariusfolio> delenda est?
[23:26] <mura> i'm just gonna paste a transcript
[23:27] <mura> yeah...

So there you have it... this is just not cool... i mean, what the hell? D:

EDIT: It might look like i'm angry at the team or something... well, kind of, this guys did it too well, i got... just... *sigh* DAMN TEVS! Steele, you magnificent bastard! AGH!!!

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Steele, you magnificent bastard!
Did Steele write a book? I would love to be able to cry out loud "Steele you magnificent bastard, I read your book!" during WiH2

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
If I remember correctly, he wrote a treatise on the use of the destroyers in GTVA Battlegroups in response to lessons learned by studying Shivan tactics, and this directly affects the way the GTVA maneuver their fleet assets during WiH.

"Steele, you magnificent bastard! I read your treatise!" probably doesn't have the same ring to it. Although I could cook up such a treatise in writing post-exams...
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[00:52] <Caiaphas> I will be honest.  I cheered during the finale of DE.
[00:58] <mura> Tev scum
[00:59] * Caiaphas is diehard Tev and doesn't afraid of any crazy fed.
[00:59] <mura> **** the feds! wardog for life!
[01:00] <mura> aaaah, no mames, estubo tan pinches bueno que tengo que expresarlo en español!
[01:00] <mura> EN MAL ESPAÑOL!

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
"Steele you magnificent Bastard, I read your Treatise!" Hmmm, it has the wrong amount of syllables, perhaps "Text" may work...

No... It still doesn't sound right...

I wonder what the space-age aquivalent of "Infanterie greift an" might be anyway? I guess Steele's treatise fits that role in a way...

Ah, **** it, I'll just pretend it IS a book. Let's hope WiH 2 will give me a truly good moment to shout it Patton-style.

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Until the UEF can use his shock jumping tactics against him through something like beam-equipped Narayanas, I doubt it.
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Offline Liberator

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Wait a minute...the Feds have Anti-matter tech?  Why on earth are they using Rail/Coil guns?  You'd think they would have some method of flinging the stuff at range and blowing the hell outta everything.
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Yes, they have. It's called "packing it in a penetrator projectile which is shot via mass driver into an enemy target". Or "pack it into a missile warhead".
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I admit that I let a small Squeeee of joy escape when the
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in DE. But I have to also add that I audibly cursed the stealth fighters  . . . . . You know the ones I mean.
 
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We have achieved the ultimate ideal of free video rental. But at what cost?

 

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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Narayana's are really quite powerful, at least when the tactical situation fits their profile. I don't think they were given the chance to shine given the circumstances in R1, but for example in the Rheza station mission they took off more than a 1/3 of the Atreus hitpoints by the time the dialogue ended and Steele jumped out. They also play an important role in the background, helping the Solaris-destroyers in diversion in Aristeia iirc. Same with the Durgas really. But that's the premise of BP combat - tactic, counter, tactic, counter ....
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Offline Dilmah G

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Well, on the surface, that's the premise of every military engagement ever.

But going below the surface, as Sun Tzu said, "All warfare is based on deception." If you're familiar with Matt Reilly, you'll recall in Ice Station the SAS lecturer and officer also said "Have your enemy look at one hand whilst you doing something else with the other," or something to that effect. What it really is is making the enemy think your doing this, have him believe it and counter it. Except you've been expecting this counter and you have an action that nullifies this counter as well as achieving what you want to achieve here, or something at least a little like that.

But if you're one step ahead of this, you'll have prepared a contingency for the enemy action and enacted it. Or even better, have been expecting this all along and have your enemy eat right out of your palm. On the note of contingencies, flow charts are really helpful with planning them, I've found; wouldn't be surprised if Steele's office on the flagship is covered in flowcharts written on butcher's paper. :D
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Offline General Battuta

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Wait a minute...the Feds have Anti-matter tech?  Why on earth are they using Rail/Coil guns?  You'd think they would have some method of flinging the stuff at range and blowing the hell outta everything.

Antimatter is extremely hard to contain and even harder to get to detonate in a yield-maximizing fashion. For this reason it's delivered via torpedoes, generally. The standard-issue torps on the Apocalypse, Narayana, and Solaris, as well as the Jackhammer and Sledgehammer ASMs, are all antimatter-tipped, like the GTVA Helios or (I think?) the Tsunami.

There are some antimatter-cored railguns in service too. But don't fall into the SF trap of thinking of antimatter as a be-all-end-all replacement for nukes. Though the yield efficiency is nominally much higher, it's way more expensive and you can't carry as much.

 

Offline Liberator

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I'm just stretching....grasping for a way for the Feds to have some kind of tactical parity with GTVA.
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They do. While beams are a massive advantage, it's one that is mostly in terms of logistics (not having to carry around magazines full of asplodey stuff is reaally good). The tactical properties of beams can be countered, as the UEF demonstrates by using missile swarm and precision mass drivers to take out turrets en masse.
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Offline General Battuta

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I'm just stretching....grasping for a way for the Feds to have some kind of tactical parity with GTVA.

We wanted an asymmetric balance model, though, so their capship guns alone won't bring them to parity. Good fighter/gunship/bomber tactics are the key to the UEF holding or gaining ground. In that respect they outperform the GTVA.

That said they can put some pretty heavy throw weight on scene. You'll get to see some very tense railgun/torp-vs-beam duels in [email protected]

 
Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Good.  I've been itching to see Narayanas and Solarises get to show their stuff.
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[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

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[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

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The Toutatis showed her stuff in Aristeia...
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Offline Snail

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The Toutatis showed her stuff in Aristeia...
Yeah, in the same sense that the Narayana did in Darkest Hour.