[Fury]

Originally posted by Shrike
And why would you need to make a 'pseudobeam' for fighters?  Sure having a focal distance to reduce damage at long range for weapons would be neat, but really...... beam and pulse.  What else can you really do?  A 'hybrid' is merely a pulse with a very long trail, which can be done as it is.

Yes, but that effect sucks. Just look at TBP Nial fighter, it does not look good.

[Shrike]

But in reality a Nial would use a true beam.  So we remove that problem.

[Fury]

Originally posted by Shrike
But in reality a Nial would use a true beam.  So we remove that problem.

True. I just suggested that if it could be easier to make a pulse weapon that is exactly like beam after it is fired, not ****ty looking trail or stretched pulse than modifying existing beam code and make it perfectly working (energy, AI).

[Shrike]

Well, if the TBP wants beam-firing fighters, they'd better get started on fixing all the problems, nyet?

[Bobboau]

well I fixed the energy bug,
sort of, I need to figure out how to use the timestamp functions, it stops firing when out of energy the only thing wrong is it won't lock you out of firing it for a short delay after depleteing the reserves, but this is minor

I realy want to know why the AI won't fire these

[Fozzy]

Is there some seperate AI section that you have to fill in.

[Bobboau]

the targetting beam section is triggered in the same function for normal primary weapons

[_argv[-1]]

Originally posted by Bobboau
the targetting beam section is triggered in the same function for normal primary weapons

Just to remind you: Did you check the TBL to make sure that there aren't any flags on the weapon (eg, 'huge') that are telling the AI not to fire it? Also, did you try making a mission that does beam-free-all on the AI fighters carrying it?

[Bobboau]

it's the targeting laser with damage and a hit explosion, I cnaged nothing else, I'll try the beam free all, but it looks like type c beams are freed apon creation

[Anaz]

Originally posted by Bobboau
it's the targeting laser with damage and a hit explosion, I cnaged nothing else, I'll try the beam free all, but it looks like type c beams are freed apon creation

can you make it so your killcount goes up when you shoot someone down with it

[Bobboau]

I'll look into it

[Alikchi]

Could you mount something like this on a capital ship?
A TRACKING continuous beam weapon I mean?

[Bobboau]

well if you set the fire wait to 0 this thing will do that, I think

[_argv[-1]]

Originally posted by Alikchi
Could you mount something like this on a capital ship?
A TRACKING continuous beam weapon I mean?

Type 0 beams already do this. The beam's aim is adjusted whenever the target moves.

[Alikchi]

Hmm, so it would track fighters? Continuously? Like an AAAf that doesn't "blink"?

[_argv[-1]]

Originally posted by Alikchi
Hmm, so it would track fighters? Continuously? Like an AAAf that doesn't "blink"?

Correct.

[Taristin]

That sounds like one mean weapon

[Sesquipedalian]

An AAA that didn't "blink" would be easy.  Just change the number of shots to one instead of three.

[_argv[-1]]

Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
That sounds like one mean weapon

That's why it's used against capships.

It also applies damage in the usual 'n times per second' manner, instead of once per blink on type 3 beams.

The disadvantage that type 0 beams have when compared to type 3 is that, if they miss, they miss for the entire shot, whereas type 3 beams that miss may still hit on the next blink.

Despite this disadvantage, I suspect that :V: created the type 3 beam to use as anti-fighter upon realizing that shaking a type 0 beam is pretty impossible -- once it's got you, you're going to take all of its damage unless you move out of range or duck behind something to avoid it. Outmaneuvering it simply doesn't work. Of course, outmaneuvering type 3 beams isn't exactly easy either, and they could have just toned down damage and life on a type 0 to make it a reasonably balanced anti-fighter beam.

P.S.: This smiley is cool:

[_argv[-1]]

Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
An AAA that didn't "blink" would be easy.  Just change the number of shots to one instead of three.

It's still type 3, and it still does all of its damage at once, unlike type 0 beams which do damage continuously.