[-Sara-]

The server runs mods, yes.

Make another shaft for down which pushes the elevator to a neutral point then? Like a vertical conveyer belt.

Highest level

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Lowest level

[ ] space for elevator
[  |E|  ] = exit, centred.

I thought of that, but you can't ride something that's being pushed downwards.

Sand/gravel based maybe. Or a chute to go down. Alternately warp signs.

[pecenipicek]

flipside, so sorry about that outage, power outage happened.

[Flipside]

Heh, no worries I'll probs be back obsessively carving a hill into farmland later anyway

[Sandwich]

Can you use redstone repeaters to try and make it work?

Err... let me explain.

Assume a mere 4-block high elevator of sticky pistons (which of course extends to 8 meters). We'll call activating the bottom piston "+1", the one above that "+2", etc (accordingly, "-1" and "-2" would be removal of power). To fully raise the 4-piston elevator, the required redstone activation sequence is simple: +1, +3, +5, +7.

However, due to the way sticky pistons aren't sticky unless they're actively retracting, lowering the elevator is considerably more complex, since a retracting piston can only pull a single block. Even if that block is a retracted sticky piston, whatever it's "stuck" to will not come along. Therefore, to retract the elevator you'd need to do as follows: -7, -5, -3, +4, -4, -1, +2, -2, +3, -3:

T = an extended piston arm
U = an extended piston base
O = a retracted piston

Code: [Select]

8: T
7: U -7 O
6: T    T    O    O    O
5: U    U -5 O         T    O    O    O    O    O
4: T    T    T    O +4 U -4 O    O    O         T    O
3: U    U    U -3 O    O    O         T    O +3 U -3 O
2: T    T    T    T    T    T    O +2 U -2 O    O    O
1: U    U    U    U    U    U -1 O    O    O    O    O
--------------------------------------------------------


If you can figure out how to program that sequence in redstone (not to mention the required sequence for a 12-piston elevator), please speak up.

[qazwsx]

Can you use redstone repeaters to try and make it work?

Err... let me explain.

Assume a mere 4-block high elevator of sticky pistons (which of course extends to 8 meters). We'll call activating the bottom piston "+1", the one above that "+2", etc (accordingly, "-1" and "-2" would be removal of power). To fully raise the 4-piston elevator, the required redstone activation sequence is simple: +1, +3, +5, +7.

However, due to the way sticky pistons aren't sticky unless they're actively retracting, lowering the elevator is considerably more complex, since a retracting piston can only pull a single block. Even if that block is a retracted sticky piston, whatever it's "stuck" to will not come along. Therefore, to retract the elevator you'd need to do as follows: -7, -5, -3, +4, -4, -1, +2, -2, +3, -3:

T = an extended piston arm
U = an extended piston base
O = a retracted piston

Code: [Select]

8: T
7: U -7 O
6: T    T    O    O    O
5: U    U -5 O         T    O    O    O    O    O
4: T    T    T    O +4 U -4 O    O    O         T    O
3: U    U    U -3 O    O    O         T    O +3 U -3 O
2: T    T    T    T    T    T    O +2 U -2 O    O    O
1: U    U    U    U    U    U -1 O    O    O    O    O
--------------------------------------------------------


If you can figure out how to program that sequence in redstone (not to mention the required sequence for a 12-piston elevator), please speak up.

Or, y'know, you could use a ladder.

[rhx123]

Post-update carnage report:
(My server is now 1.7.2)
-Lag appears to be fixed (the server.properties was set to read-only, thus causing minecraft to spam errors to the log at the max speed, therefor clogging up disk bandwith for the server itself)
-Dynmap is re-enabled but it doesn't seem to be getting past the firewall.
-Myhome is currently broken, so use beds to set your spawn (click leave bed once its gone black to set the point)

[TrashMan]

can't connect

[qazwsx]

Updating permissions, it needs reconfiguring.
It was quite a surprise when OPs couldn't build D:
should be on shortly, just pop into IRC
EDIT: Appears to be sorted, /home is sorted too.

[Pred the Penguin]

*lots of stuff I don't understand*

Yeah.... I think I'll pass.

How are the other stuff in the update working out?

[rhx123]

Havn't actually tried yet
I was more concerned with getting the server back in its operating state than new features.
Does the lag seem better to you or not?

[Pred the Penguin]

I have noticed much lag, but only logged on for a bit.

Shears are amazing! It would have made shade's maze sooo much easier to make. Though getting wool from sheep is slightly harder now.

BTW, warp permissions are still borked.

[-Sara-]

Found server bugs thus far:

* Creating signs gives you 10 seconds to type them, then they reset if you haven't pressed done. When sign is created the game announces you made a PRIVATE sign.
* People get the message that a PRIVATE chest created when dropping a chest, they are possibly not public.
* Warping is not possible, no-one is permitted to warp (unless intentional to force railroad use, which would be silly as it makes building elevators or tunnels between A and B very time consuming and dangerous).

[BlueFlames]

If anybody on Richard's server has any gravel they are looking to dispose of, I've ressurrected one of my old singleplayer projects, Chateau du Gravier/Castle Janeway.  I've laid out a perimeter much, much larger than my supply of gravel is adequate to build up, though, so if you're looking to get rid of any, box it up and drop it off at/near (276, 65, 586), and it will get put in the walls for future asplodin'.  I'll also need some TNT, but the need for that is way, way down the line, and given the current diplomatic situation, I wouldn't feel very good about anyone leaving it in an unsecured chest, in a public place.

After the Chateau du Gravier cap des Deux gets cratered, I'll then build a proper, stone castle in its place.  If I set it up properly, the foundation for the walls should even be left relatively unscathed.

Also, fair warning:  Don't build anywhere near (276, 65, 586), as the castle being built out of gravel at that location will eventually be exploded, and I don't want to risk any collateral damage.

[-Sara-]

I had put a few stacks in one of the chests days ago.

[Pred the Penguin]

I think I have 10 stacks or so... but they're spread out in chests everywhere! I'll get them to you when the warp permissions are fixed.

[-Sara-]

Food for thought: If one can use pistons to duplicate blocks.. and one leaves it on auto duplicating TNT indefinately.. can one destroye the MC world?

[BlueFlames]

Food for thought: If one can use pistons to duplicate blocks.. and one leaves it on auto duplicating TNT indefinately.. can one destroye the MC world?

You can strip it down to the Adminium.  Actually, you can theoretically do it with your bare hands.  It's just a matter of how much time you're willing to invest in it.

[qazwsx]

BUGFIXAN:

* Creating signs gives you 10 seconds to type them, then they reset if you haven't pressed done. When sign is created the game announces you made a PRIVATE sign.

Signs are no longer private by default, at least in the config, testing with non-ops required, but it works for me.

* People get the message that a PRIVATE chest created when dropping a chest, they are possibly not public.

Same as signs, changed the LWC config file, should work for everyone, again, needs testing.

* Warping is not possible, no-one is permitted to warp (unless intentional to force railroad use, which would be silly as it makes building elevators or tunnels between A and B very time consuming and dangerous).

Permissions config didn't include warp command, fixed.
EDIT: Actually sorted now, confirmed by tslr

[Flipside]

Got my 'Bonus Chest', thank you very much Peci, now to put it to good use I've redecorated the main hall and started it looking livable, but I am going to dismantle that tower and restart it, it's just a big square block because it was built on top of my original house, so I'm going to try and make it more interesting this time round

[Locutus of Borg]

what ever happened to that ginormous offshoot of land?