Author Topic: [WIP] SCv Moloch  (Read 26995 times)

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Offline Rga_Noris

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Just a tease so people can quit worrying... I am working on it :D





Why no p3D: I can't waste time fielding questions about things that aren't final or relevant, nor removing those items for the 3D model. When its much closer, I will.
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Offline General Battuta

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UUuuuunfff

 
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YES, the bigger sibling of the Rak is on it's way.
The family will be reunited, and I'm thrilled at the thought.
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We once thought that MediaVPs 2014 would be the year of the Shivan... But then Oddgrim arrived. Well, Rga is back so expect the Shivans to receive an exciting finale.
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Offline Tomo

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This scares me.

Brilliant work!

 

Offline Nyctaeus

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I hope the texture will resemble original one much more, than textures of Rakshasa and Sathanas. Great work :yes:
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Offline Luis Dias

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omg when I saw Rga the other day posting I was happy, but I didn't expect this at all :D. Great start with the ship!

 

Offline An4ximandros

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I hope the texture will resemble original one much more, than textures of Rakshasa and Sathanas. Great work :yes:
That was my only quarrel with the new Rakh. (Which is still awesome) The texts. lost a lot of the detail :v: gave it.

This Moloch is looking sweet. :D

 

Offline Nyctaeus

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That's actually common in newer FSU models. They're loosing their original details, in favor of something different. Both on model, and texture level. The new Leviathan for example completly lost the feel of original design. That's why I request for keeping textures in similar style to original ones here.
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Offline mjn.mixael

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Wow guys, lay off the past work. The Rak, in particular, matched the retail texture quite well in that there was no texture detail that wasn't modeled in. Go look at it. The retail Rak's texture was plain black with ribbing over red glows. Rga's Rak is plain black with modeled ribbing over red glows. Check your facts before posting nonsense.
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Offline Oddgrim

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I concur with mjnmixael here, the (newer) rak is a fantastic update and follows the retail textures quite well, people seem to forget that the source matrial we are working with are well over 14 years old 256x2 images.
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Artistic choice is exactly that. Lets try and keep the disagreements civil (if we must have them at all).

And lets also not drift discussion to encompass other works and keep it on focus to this threads model specifically please.
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Offline The Dagger

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Beautifull work, I'm glad you're back!  :yes: :yes:

 

Offline Dragon

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Is it just me, or does it look a bit like a Reaper? :) Though that's not a bad thing for a Shivan ship.

 

Offline fightermedic

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fantastic work there
and for the record: the rak is one of the best HTL's i've seen so far, it catches the spirit of the original perfectly
just as this moloch seems to do
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Offline An4ximandros

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Is it just me, or does it look a bit like a Reaper?
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Offline Rga_Noris

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O u guys...

So I'm just going to say this about the Moloch: It will follow retail fairly closely. But, where V has no detail, I will use my imagination to fill in the gaps. I will also interpret the detail they do have however I would like. If you have commentary on my interpretations, I am all ears. If you say something vague like "It's not retail enough" or "it just doesn't have the same feel" you can expect to be completely ignored UNLESS you provide an actual example as to what it should it look like to fix the issue.

The it's-not-retail-enough critique is like homeopathy. Sounds okay until any real scrutiny is applied. Then it falls on its face due to inconsistency, irrelevance, and lunacy. The reason is that if you look at a retail model, you will find that it is impossible to recreate it to today's standard without using some imagination and creativity to get there. If you don't believe me, look at the retail Sath or retail Hatshepsut.

Look at the side of the Sath and tell me... what would you add there? Would you just model in the texture detail exactly how it is, tile for tile, and leave it alone? Surely not, I don't think anyone would agree to that. So there must be a line. Unless you plan on defining that line to me, you'll be ignored.

Anywho, back to the Moloch. Maybe more screenies in a few hours, we'll see how far I get.
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Offline An4ximandros

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Well, I'd like to say my piece about the Rakh then. Where is Retail, it had a lot of red "bleeding" through the ribs. Your model looks more like a few lights stuck on the rib gaps.


To me, it mutes the contrast of colors the Retail Rakh had. As a consequence it looses "life" and falls into the "Generic Gray Space Ship" spectrum.
What I loved of the original is that it had that Homeworld-esque feel of "colorful (alien) utility."
It is still an excellent model and fantastic texture work. But it looses a few points with me.
And I think you should have put more hexagons in your texture :P
Is this a good example of feedback, Rga?

I much look forward to seeing what you do with the Moloch, because it was the Retail Shivan ship I liked the least. :)

 

Offline Rga_Noris

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It is usable feedback, for sure, but its in the wrong thread :D

"I much look forward to seeing what you do with the Moloch, because it was the Retail Shivan ship I liked the least."

Me too.
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