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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
The logs aren't uploaded automatically. The user has to click on "Upload debug log" to trigger that.

 
Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
The logs aren't uploaded automatically. The user has to click on "Upload debug log" to trigger that.

Didn't doubt that. Than the users should be told that the logs for private mods are publical visible?

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Sounds like a good idea.

"The log you're trying to upload belongs to a private mod. Please be aware that this log (and any information in it) will be public. Do you want to continue?"
[Yes] [No] [Open Log]

The last button would open the log but keep the dialog open. This way the user could censor any secrets and still upload the log.

 
Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
That sounds good to me. Yet I don't know what the qualification standards for beta tester are, and hence if everyone uploading a log would be capable of removing all secrets. It might be better if only the 'owner' could view such things or the users that are members of the respective testing group. But I don't know if that'd cause too much work for you, and there're other methods of doing this? Also, when you're a beta tester you should have other methods of getting in touch with the devs anyway.

Maybe I'm overwhelming cautious, but it would be sad if the great work you're doing gets bad publicity for spoiling classified things. :)

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
I'm not going to try and stop people from revealing secrets. That'd be futile anyway (if someone really wants to, they could just upload the whole mod somewhere).
I want to prevent accidental leaks which the prompt should achieve.

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
I think the issue is, in the spur of the moment a tester may not be qualified to know if anything he is uploading is secret or not, but a mod owner might be able to later look and make that decision.
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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Hi. So probably stupid question. I have installed retail Freespace 2 from GOG. In Launcher I have FSO, MediaVP's, and FS2 Retail available. When I click play on any of them it gives me error saying I need to move FSO.exe to Freespace 2 folder. But when I do this and click play it the gives me error cant find FSO.exe. Im runnin on windows 8 x84. And thnx in advance for any help.
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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Hi. So probably stupid question. I have installed retail Freespace 2 from GOG. In Launcher I have FSO, MediaVP's, and FS2 Retail available. When I click play on any of them it gives me error saying I need to move FSO.exe to Freespace 2 folder. But when I do this and click play it the gives me error cant find FSO.exe. Im runnin on windows 8 x84. And thnx in advance for any help.
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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
@themac7212: Can you please post a screenshot of the error messages? I can't tell which one you're talking about.

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Hi,

I downloaded 0.7.9 from the Knossos site, installed it and then said "yes" when it asked me if I wanted to update to 0.10.1. However, when the installation starts, it gets part way through and then cuts out with no message after getting to a certain point. When I try to run Knossos again after that, I get the below error and can't run it.



It seems like it's choking on not being able to install a certain file? It makes me wonder whether the old version is still using it while the update is going, and the installer terminates itself when it can't replace the old file.

How should I go about allowing it to update properly?

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
How should I go about allowing it to update properly?
Should be able to grab the latest version here: https://github.com/ngld/knossos/releases
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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Interesting. Haven't seen that problem before. Which AV do you use?

It makes me wonder whether the old version is still using it while the update is going, and the installer terminates itself when it can't replace the old file.
That can't happen. The updater waits until Knossos' process quits before it starts replacing files.

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Interesting. Haven't seen that problem before. Which AV do you use?

I use Bitdefender Anti Virus Free Edition. Though after you asked about it I tried disabling it, installed 0.7.9 and then updated, and it worked fine. So maybe the AV stopped it for some reason. Thanks for that :)

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Ah well.. it seems there is a character limit for the description of a mod, because i got an unknown error during my upload. The look into the log files say this:
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4.description.String value is too long: ['releases']
Well, because the description is shown completely offline, i have to ask... how long can a description be?
Because i wrote them in two languages (tabs or something like that would be helpful, additionally to the planned changelog tab ^^) the description in question is 20279 characters long.
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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
The current limit is 10240. I've added limits to all text input to make sure that I never accidentally store more data than expected in them. I never thought someone would reach that limit which is the reason you didn't get a proper error message. I could probably raise the limit. Does 100000 sound reasonable?

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Does 100000 sound reasonable?

I also think that this 20k+ would be a very very rare exception because there are so many changes and additions in this mod... even the description in one language would be already problematic with 10k characters. But if i had knew this sooner, i would had simply reduced the description to the most important points and had added a forum thread link for the respective language for all the other information instead.

So well.. i am not sure if it is really necessary to make the limit higher. I could simply try to reorganize the description, though. Most important information for me is, character limit is 10240. That is a number i can work with in the future :).
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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Why can't we have internal video hosting of our own?

 
Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Why can't we have internal video hosting of our own?

Because there's already this thing called YouTube? Apart from that, the number of mods that have trailers is rather limited.

 

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Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
We could... but why? Why would you even try to implement a new hosting service when there are several free ones around? Especially given how much work it would take and money (since you'll need to buy servers in several geographic locations or rent a CDN), it's not even worth the effort.
Besides, that's completely out of scope for a mod installer/launcher.

If you create your own video service, we can talk about this again. Otherwise, it's pointless to bring up.

 
Re: PUBLIC BETA: Knossos 0.10.1 (combined launcher/installer)
Also, as far as I can see that (I don't use Knossos myself), you already can watch trailers/other mod-related videos on YT, so there isn't any need for some custom platform.