[Novachen]

A parallel universe? And i thought this one is an Epilogue to the Freespace Saga... and that took place in only one universe as far as i remember.

But well, i do not know, maybe the Capella Supernova causes a dimensional rift and actually both games were shifted into a video game in the Dimensional Eclipse universe which could be a parallel universe of Wings of Dawn... who knows? 

[Nightmare]

It happens in a parallel universe where logic follows entirely different laws and principles.

[Nyctaeus]

This mod is set hundreds to even thousands of years into the future, perhaps overlapping with Mortal Engines, of which this mod is a stealth sequel. It's not a mash up of franchises. This is a Teaser Demo. Its about the Shivans. They want to punish transgressions by many races, especially after the events involving the destruction of Earth. In doing so, they attract attention from Vishnu, who want to wage war on the Shivans for some reason after banishing them from the Great Council formed by Brahma in the First Time. It may take place in another universe different than the GTVA's.

Do I need to write a design doc to make up for this?

rekt

[Spoon]

Everyone take a shot with a gun o' course.

Help, I'm dying of both lead and alcohol poisoning.

The only thing that can save me is if Bryan See explains to me again how his creation interacts with Mortal Engines from 2018

Do I need to write a design doc to make up for this?

Yes, please do. I'm sure everyone here would be very interested in reading it.

[Nightmare]

Do I need to write a design doc to make up for this?

My head hurts. My brain's knocking and said it'd leave me forever if I continue reading this thread.

[Bryan See]

A parallel universe? And i thought this one is an Epilogue to the Freespace Saga... and that took place in only one universe as far as i remember.

But well, i do not know, maybe the Capella Supernova causes a dimensional rift and actually both games were shifted into a video game in the Dimensional Eclipse universe which could be a parallel universe of Wings of Dawn... who knows? 

Yeah. Could be. The Shivans are nomadic, trying to find their way home. On their way, they might have happened across the BSG universe and the 2018 Mortal Engines movie universe, in which Shattered Stars is set.

It happens in a parallel universe where logic follows entirely different laws and principles.

Indeed it is.

[Spoon]

[Nightmare]

A parallel universe? And i thought this one is an Epilogue to the Freespace Saga... and that took place in only one universe as far as i remember.

But well, i do not know, maybe the Capella Supernova causes a dimensional rift and actually both games were shifted into a video game in the Dimensional Eclipse universe which could be a parallel universe of Wings of Dawn... who knows? 

Yeah. Could be. The Shivans are nomadic, trying to find their way home. On their way, they might have happened across the BSG universe and the 2018 Mortal Engines movie universe, in which Shattered Stars is set.

It happens in a parallel universe where logic follows entirely different laws and principles.

Indeed it is.

So all the bugs and crashes aren't just errors but... are there to make the player wonder about the nature of the Shivans, as they are living in a universe where not only black holes or gamma ray bursts occur but also CTDs, spontainous space time foldings making parts of ships transparent as if they were missing textures. And the reveal that the multiverse is in fact only a simulation of the Brahman council, running on a Windows OS with incompatible drivers, hence the warped reality?

[Strygon]

So all the bugs and crashes aren't just errors but... are there to make the player wonder about the nature of the Shivans, as they are living in a universe where not only black holes or gamma ray bursts occur but also CTDs, spontainous space time foldings making parts of ships transparent as if they were missing textures. And the reveal that the multiverse is in fact only a simulation of the Brahman council, running on a Windows OS with incompatible drivers, hence the warped reality?

god damnit nightmare you just made me choke on my water because i was drinking while reading your comment

[Spoon]

Why are you drinking water? That's cheating the drinking game we've got going here.

[Strygon]

Why are you drinking water? That's cheating the drinking game we've got going here.

Oh right, I forgot! Let me unpack some booze and get the party started.

cause boy am i gonna need that after playing through this mess of a mod

[Nightmare]

So all the bugs and crashes aren't just errors but... are there to make the player wonder about the nature of the Shivans, as they are living in a universe where not only black holes or gamma ray bursts occur but also CTDs, spontainous space time foldings making parts of ships transparent as if they were missing textures. And the reveal that the multiverse is in fact only a simulation of the Brahman council, running on a Windows OS with incompatible drivers, hence the warped reality?

god damnit nightmare you just made me choke on my water because i was drinking while reading your comment

It's the new level of reality gaming introduced by Star Citizen. In SC you drink your coffee, but the game crashes and forces you to drink your coffee in RL instead. Shattered Stars follows a similar concept but emphasizes the sim-part (as piloting a Shivan fighter in RL isn't supported by Shattered Stars yet). 2*3D gaming so to say. It's the only way for game designers right now to truly interact with people in RL yet.

Why are you drinking water? That's cheating the drinking game we've got going here.

You'd have to be alcoholic to survive elseway, and even then your chances are tiny.

[Novachen]

I approve the Highlight now... not because of the Mod you can download, but because both Shattered Stars threads became a modern HLP classic already... 

Can we highlight a topic instead of a release then? 

Maybe we have to delete the Download links to be highlighted? 

[Bryan See]

I approve the Highlight now... not because of the Mod you can download, but because both Shattered Stars threads went to a modern classic already... 

Can we highlight a topic instead of a release then? 

Maybe we have to delete the Download links for that? 

Yes. After Shattered Stars 1.0.2 is released.

[Nightmare]

Do you mean the Highlight or removing the download links?

[Bryan See]

Do you mean the Highlight or removing the download links?

Highlights. Both.

[HLD_Prophecy]

Guys, I'm wondering... many of us have been talking about promoting HLP more and really putting the community's best face forward, right?

This is literally the most posted-in topic in the past week, or more. New people see this, what do they see? Chaos. No one person is 100% responsible for this. The project head started the mod, yes, but with near everyone with some say in the community repeatedly expressing (if not shouting) their honest and fervent opinions on this unusual affair, things have gotten out of hand. And they will not get better just by continuing to rant at the project head thus giving him attention and something to keep talking about - thus wasting his time and ours.

Advise simply not posting in this topic until things improve. This advice is not an attack on Bryan See. It is a recognition that things have spiraled out of control; out of control until we all take a step back and maybe return to this topic down the road when tempers have cooled and certain issues have been recognized/fixed by those with the prerogative/responsibility to do so.


TL;DR: keep personal attacks focused on Derek Smart  leave this topic lie, post about other stuff elsewhere and let the issue cool down, fix itself - or fade away if it will.

[Bryan See]

Guys, I'm wondering... many of us have been talking about promoting HLP more and really putting the community's best face forward, right?

This is literally the most posted-in topic in the past week, or more. New people see this, what do they see? Chaos. No one person is 100% responsible for this. The project head started the mod, yes, but with near everyone with some say in the community repeatedly expressing (if not shouting) their honest and fervent opinions on this unusual affair, things have gotten out of hand. And they will not get better just by continuing to rant at the project head thus giving him attention and something to keep talking about - thus wasting his time and ours.

Advise simply not posting in this topic until things improve. This advice is not an attack on Bryan See. It is a recognition that things have spiraled out of control; out of control until we all take a step back and maybe return to this topic down the road when tempers have cooled and certain issues have been recognized/fixed by those with the prerogative/responsibility to do so.


TL;DR: keep personal attacks focused on Derek Smart  leave this topic lie, post about other stuff elsewhere and let the issue cool down, fix itself - or fade away if it will.

HLP is a place where we, the modders, supposed to create projects.

Shattered Stars is the latest project that I have something to offer. It offers not only the distant future of FreeSpace, but also in one of the universes the Shivans are said to be traveling in search of their way back home as the explosion of the Capella star might serve as a bridge between universes (one of them is the 2018 Mortal Engines movie universe, which happens to be the 2004 BSG universe). The development team consists of one person, which is me. I know there's a reasonable explanation, and that the HLP community won't get better by ranting at the project head, giving me attention and something to keep talking about.

I heed this advice until things improve.

BTW, I don't know about Derek Smart, other than he's the creator of Battlecruiser 3000AD.

And, maybe you'll put it into the Highlights section?

[Strygon]

HLP is a place where we, the modders, supposed to create projects.

*snippity snap*

And, maybe you'll put it into the Highlights section?

Bryan this is the third time you've asked to have this... mod be put in Highlights when it's not exactly worthy of it being put there. Cool it.

[HLD_Prophecy]

@Bryan: As the creator of the mod you certainly have the right to post in this topic. I was speaking to everyone, the audience, myself included, when I suggested that we let the topic sit for a bit.

Of course we create stuff!  Again, you're perfectly welcome to post here - especially if you have substantial bugfixes/adjustments/quality of life stuff to add.


Derek Smart is a video game developer of a sort at best, a true pain at worst. He is very concerned with making sure that everyone knows how great his games are and what a visionary he is. Ordinarily this would not have been a problem, could have just been a passing joke really, until the day when Smart very much threatened to buy the Freespace IP. Given how much it has sold for, it was not entirely out of his reach, believe me. His condescending attitude, refusal to listen to any sensible advice, commitment to completely trample on common sense, the dignity of the IP, and everything that made the game what it is...

His games weren't that great anyways, to put it mildly. Derek Smart is probably the only person that the community could be said to universally loath. Unfortunately no action is pending to bring that chump to justice - but we'd all be quietly happy if it were.