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Offline Lepanto

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Now that my contest model is (mostly) done, I'm starting work on a Shivan frigate. The Geryon has more broadside firepower than the average Shivan warship; planned armament is two LReds in the big dorsal "stinger", four SReds on the spikes for broadsides, and two Shivan slash beams in ventral mounts. Opinions?

"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
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Just looking at the shape you have right now, I think it looks pretty good. Obviously there's a lot of work to be done on the geometry, but the shape is nice. The small arms that stick out help establish it as being very big. The big mouth on the front looks ominous.

Right now the only concern I have is with (what I assume is) the hangar bay at the bottom. Perhaps something that connects it with the rest of the ship? Maybe make it bigger, or longer so that it connects with the front.

 
 

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Thanks.

Dragon, that fighter's just there to help scale my fighterbay.

bobbtmann, I understand. I'll fiddle with the underside some more, and do something with the generic-looking fighterbay.
"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
Finian O'Toole, The Irish Times, 5 May 1994

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GVB Ammit: Vasudan strike bomber
Player-Controlled Capship Modding Tutorial

 

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I know that fighter is for scaling, but it's a neat design and I don't recognize it. It it released?
Also, for a fighterbay, please avoid the "big flat hole in the hull" design. I'd rather see some doors which could possibly lead to a hangar of some sorts.

 

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I know that fighter is for scaling, but it's a neat design and I don't recognize it. It it released?
Also, for a fighterbay, please avoid the "big flat hole in the hull" design. I'd rather see some doors which could possibly lead to a hangar of some sorts.

That fighter is the GVB Ammit, my finished modeling contest entry: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84916.0

How would I go about making animated fighterbay doors?

Update:
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 11:34:09 am by Lepanto »
"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
Finian O'Toole, The Irish Times, 5 May 1994

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Frontlines 2334+2335: T-V War campaign
GVB Ammit: Vasudan strike bomber
Player-Controlled Capship Modding Tutorial

 

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All I see is a blob.
Did the model get corrupted?
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While Trashman could have been more diplomatic, I think he might be sort of seeing the same thing I am - from some angles, it's quite difficult to see the structure of the ship. I think it all flows together a little too well, to the point where everything kind of becomes indistinct. It might be worth looking at both your smoothing and your geometry and trying to figure out precisely where each segment begins and ends, and then doing something about making that definition more obvious in the model.

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I see two pairs of woman legs with... Meh, as Dekker said. I think the whole geometry iss a bit odd, makes the whole model hard to read without anykind of textures.
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I'm fixing up the "mouth" area in response to criticism. But, I'd like to personally request that, if you're going to offer criticism, please keep it clean.  :) Thank you, though.

Is this any better?  :)
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 11:33:45 am by Lepanto »
"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
Finian O'Toole, The Irish Times, 5 May 1994

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Now it looks like a Trap Jaw Ant that grew a scorpionish tail. It captures the Shivan ship-ology very well in my opinion.
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Add some more polys to arms to make them more smooth and organic like in modern HTL shivan ships. Current arms looks like from old, low-poly Nightmares models. It's always good to have some inspiration.
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Add some more polys to arms to make them more smooth and organic like in modern HTL shivan ships. Current arms looks like from old, low-poly Nightmares models. It's always good to have some inspiration.

Okay. I'm already using modern Shivan HTLs as inspiration, but I've got a lot of work to do before my model's anywhere near that level of quality.

Update:

Started on the plating, and replaced the bad-looking arms with much higher-quality ones. I know the lighting's weird around the arms.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 11:33:32 am by Lepanto »
"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
Finian O'Toole, The Irish Times, 5 May 1994

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Your mesh is pretty messy round the arms you've added. Beware of the normals.
And stop putting a p3d link each time you made a change, the p3d link updates automatically so they're all the same. All we end up having is three times the same thing which makes the thread a bit too heavy for my bandwidth.

 

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Fiddled around with the look of the ship a bit, drastically revising the rear and slimming the bottom. What do you think?
"We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely, to talk about poverty and inequality, to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug."
Finian O'Toole, The Irish Times, 5 May 1994

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The shape is starting to look quite good, keep going in that direction pal.
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Just a heads up but you have a missing face near the rear under the lip where the bottom protrusion meets the main hull, it's very hard to see but it's gone none the less. Other than that it's looking good.
<Axem> yet still more insightful than #hard-light

<Axem> jad2.23 will just be cat videos

<DahBlount> So
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