[Bobboau]

yes but I want my side to win the propaganda war!!!
so, um... silence you commie!!
...
ya

[Turnsky]

maybe i shoulda added [sarcasm] tags to my post...

[vyper]

Originally posted by Turnsky
somehow i don't think a pharmacitical (sp?) factory would have it's roof camoflaged or have 30 iraqi soldiers and a general guarding it, nor be surrounded by barbed wire..

Fear of industrial espionage?

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Sandwich
I find it quite interesting that the US is severely downplaying the incident - can't blame them on one hand, but on the other.... well, I realize they can't exactly start to racially profile everyone like they do here in Israel, but something should be done - I just hope the right people learn the right lessons from this. [/url]

Ugh.  This political correctness is annoying - I don't see why we should fall all over ourselves praising Islam when this kind of stuff is going to happen anyway.  If they want us to see their religion as peaceful, let them prove it. I don't see any Muslim leaders in the U.S. denouncing violence committed in the name of Islam.

I found an interesting post on another bulletin board mentioning Muslim terrorist attacks against the U.S. starting back in 1979.  It's scary that we've responded so little up until now.

[deep_eyes]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!:mad:

there goes this years taxes...

[CODEDOG ND]

Maybe they will be stupid and tap on the nose of one of those missiles.  

[Goober5000]

I'm curious.  How did that helicopter get on the ground?  It's completely intact, so it wasn't shot down - unless an errant bullet punctured a fuel tank and they had to land before they ran out of fuel, which seems substantially unlikely.  Might it be a prop?  (Don't ask me how they acquired it, if that's the case.)

Either way, that photo for some reason looks hilariously funny - an Apache helicopter sitting in the middle of a field surrounded by people going nuts.  The helicopter looks so out of place it just as well might be a UFO.

[Turnsky]

... without even so much as a scratch..

[Knight Templar]

Here we go.

News is your friend.

[Turnsky]

how tough is an apache?

[Knight Templar]

As far as helicoptors go, I don't think anything like that should have happened..

Maybe Allah really is fighting with them

[Turnsky]

well needless to say, the US will either try to recover it,


or blow it to smithereens...

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by Turnsky
well needless to say, the US will either try to recover it,


or blow it to smithereens...

well from what i read in the papers, it was shot down, by "civilian" fire from farmers. but me thinks they was soldiers in disguise. the apache seemed unharmed in the landing but on the real... this technology, if we "persay" lost this thing, and we couldnt recover the apache... iraq gonna make a techy leap ON OUR TAXES! (domestic folk of course )

[Turnsky]

it'll probably be cheaper to blow it apart than to spend time and resources in recovering it..

[jonskowitz]

  Gee, 1 helicoptor out of about thirty that were sent and about 7000 aircraft in theater.

If you're getting this excited over victories like this then I doubt you're really winning...

[neo_hermes]

i'm an american and don't really care what's going on!:nervous:

[Pez]

Originally posted by Goober5000


Ugh.  This political correctness is annoying - I don't see why we should fall all over ourselves praising Islam when this kind of stuff is going to happen anyway.  If they want us to see their religion as peaceful, let them prove it. I don't see any Muslim leaders in the U.S. denouncing violence committed in the name of Islam.

I found an interesting post on another bulletin board mentioning Muslim terrorist attacks against the U.S. starting back in 1979.  It's scary that we've responded so little up until now.

"this is a war of a satanic religeon".

Every war in history has always had little to do with religion. It has much more to do with power and money. But it's easier to get support from the people if you use religion as a cause to wage war (just look at the crusades). Remember what Marx said: "Religion is opium for the masses".

I just want to make it clear that I don't have anything against religious people but when I see people write things like this: "this is a war of a satanic religeon" I just gotta laugh, maybe he/she should look up what horrible things that have been done in the name of God.

[Goober5000]

There are "good" Christians and "bad" Christians, just like there are "good" Muslims and "bad" Muslims.  The Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. are all examples of people doing evil things in the name of Christianity.  They've been denounced as wrong and rightly so.  However, I don't see anyone apologizing for the Muslim terrorist attacks on NYC (both times), for example.

As far as the spiritual authority behind a certain religion, that requires a bit of research, and it helps to have an understanding of the spiritual realm.  Close examination is often the best way to bring out truth in any religious doctrine.

[Turnsky]

the darkest times in human history were done in the name of various gods and goddesses... (entire history people)
it seems to me that we a far from the 'enlightened and peaceful' people we envisioned in the 1950's-60's in fact, we are about as barbaric as ever, sure we had a few 'shining lights' of humanity:mandela,  luther king jr, etc.

But also remember this: In WWII, if there was no propeganda more allied soldiers would've died..

now what did voltare say? "if there were no god, it would be necessary to create him"

[Sandwich]

Ok, as much as I'm dying to jump in here with the religon issue, I'll refrain from contributing and just say this: only discuss religon as applies to the war on Iraq, and with the same level of intensity that you've been discussing the war itself. You know the rules - follow 'em.

This post has been a warning/reminder from your Friendly Neighborhood Foodstuff.