Author Topic: Omniscaper's hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots) (Read 37196 times)

übermetroid · **Reply #40 on:** December 09, 2003, 03:03:03 pm

When the modle gets finished can you do a quick mission with it that has the playing doing an assault on the Galaxy? Oh mad that would be fun!

Include it on a VP file so it is super easy to use...

MLeoDaalder · **Reply #41 on:** December 09, 2003, 03:39:19 pm

You know, we (BC players) have MVAM (Multi Vector Asault Mode) for the Galaxy (so seperating Saucer or Star Drive) and for the Prometheus on the way (just waiting for the models).

Sandwich · **Reply #42 on:** December 09, 2003, 03:52:00 pm

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Originally posted by MLeoDaalder
You know, we (BC players) have MVAM (Multi Vector Asault Mode) for the Galaxy (so seperating Saucer or Star Drive) and for the Prometheus on the way (just waiting for the models).

Uhm.... yay!

We have dockpoints.

Is the MVAM something being custom-coded into the game, though?

MLeoDaalder · **Reply #43 on:** December 09, 2003, 03:55:43 pm

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Originally posted by Sandwich
Uhm.... yay! We have dockpoints.

Is the MVAM something being custom-coded into the game, though?

It is custom scripted.

Besides, we do have dockpoints, but they are a pain in the @$$ and not suitable for MVAM.

Sandwich · **Reply #44 on:** December 09, 2003, 04:12:01 pm

Cool.

Bobboau · **Reply #45 on:** December 09, 2003, 09:32:32 pm

it would probly be best if two models were made, one designed for splitting up into Saucer or Star Drive, the other for normal single ship mode

Singh · **Reply #46 on:** December 09, 2003, 09:55:57 pm

Prommy MVAM cannot be done in FS2, since it doesn't support multiple docking.

Pretty good stuff this....

Omniscaper · **Reply #47 on:** December 09, 2003, 11:06:45 pm

Turrets are FINISHED! ALL 35 turrets spanning all phaser arcs and two torpedo launcers. I hope you TBL folks are prepping up for this baby. I'm just incorporating the LODs now.

Ulala · **Reply #48 on:** December 10, 2003, 01:03:16 am

Wowsers.

Sandwich · **Reply #49 on:** December 10, 2003, 01:13:43 am

Hmmm... if we could have animated glowmaps linked to firing sequences of certain turrets, we could even have the stream of energy run along the phaser arcs to the firing position.

Oh, BTW, I thought of a really neat way to allow a phaser arc "turret" to fire from anywhere along its length. Only problem is, it needs to be circular, not elliptical.

Basically you'd have the turret model as a large ring, with one firing point somewhere along the top or bottom (depending on if it's a dorsal or ventral phaser). This ring would be a "multi-part" turret, and would rotate to face the target, then fire. The rotation would not be visible to the player at all, but the effect would be that the phaser arc could fire from any point along its length.

Only bug I can think of with this is that there is no way to tell the phaser not to fire along a certain length or its arc (for example, a part that would actually be hidden inside the hull geometry).

Nico · **Reply #50 on:** December 10, 2003, 05:08:47 am

you can also put a lot of firing points on the arc thing, since it will use only one anyway ( turrets use one at a time if I'm not mistaken ).

MLeoDaalder · **Reply #51 on:** December 10, 2003, 09:28:00 am

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Originally posted by Sandwich
Hmmm... if we could have animated glowmaps linked to firing sequences of certain turrets, we could even have the stream of energy run along the phaser arcs to the firing position.

Oh, BTW, I thought of a really neat way to allow a phaser arc "turret" to fire from anywhere along its length. Only problem is, it needs to be circular, not elliptical.

Basically you'd have the turret model as a large ring, with one firing point somewhere along the top or bottom (depending on if it's a dorsal or ventral phaser). This ring would be a "multi-part" turret, and would rotate to face the target, then fire. The rotation would not be visible to the player at all, but the effect would be that the phaser arc could fire from any point along its length.

Only bug I can think of with this is that there is no way to tell the phaser not to fire along a certain length or its arc (for example, a part that would actually be hidden inside the hull geometry).

The best way to create the arc phasers is that you use a path. Or better a nurb (or what might be even better a formula).
And then use a "which point X on line is the closest to point Y."
Then figure out how much that point is from the start and the end of the arc (both ranging form 0 to 1).
Now you need to have a set "charge" time (so how long it will take to get the charging effect from either the start or end to the middle) and for the start to point X is (if point X is closer to start) charge time * the float you calculated.
And for the end the same way, although then the float is bigger than 1...

Well that is about it, it is not all btw, just rudimentary. I am going to implent this in my own game as well and I resently started to think about this problem.

karajorma · **Reply #52 on:** December 10, 2003, 10:19:41 am

Sandwich was trying to figure out how to make the turrets work without altering the code (i.e via a pof alteration).

As for your suggestion if you're feeling brave enough to have a go at FS2's turreting code feel free to have a go but from what the others have said about it were talking about a twelve change of underwear coding session.

KARMA · **Reply #53 on:** December 10, 2003, 10:41:02 am

yes go for it!
we really need a masochi...ehm, a turrett coder:)
and we need new coders too!:)

MLeoDaalder · **Reply #54 on:** December 10, 2003, 12:53:06 pm

Well I could always give it a try... But I don't have a good system, so I can't test everything.

So where is the link to the source of 3.5.5?
*hears his little brother scream against him*
*sigh*
He is a person who thinks he always gets things for nothing...
He thinks game makers always make games to hard to play. Well, I don't think so. He finds four on a line hard! Man he also thinks that he can do everything better than me, so he also tried FS2.
He also thinks everyone cheats (because everyone is better than him) and because of that he won't use cheats. So just to make it, correction, him (it is hard to remind that all the times

) stop, I might also make a command line for permanent god mode not through the normal cheat codes (but I will leave that out if I release something to the community).

Sorry to have botherd you with the last part...

Hippo · **Reply #55 on:** December 11, 2003, 03:29:50 pm

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Originally posted by Sandwich

Hey, you SW TC guys seeing this?

Omniscaper · **Reply #56 on:** December 12, 2003, 10:07:52 am

Finished!!!

The Uber detailed Galaxy will have to be delayed until it's original modeler "Scotchy" finishes the release for Star Trek Bridge Commander. I believe he needs to finish the underside saucer section texture. I dare not blaspheme and use alternative textures for the missing spot. His texturing abilities are worth the wait. I have the stock version with turrets and LODS all ready to go with Photon Torpedoe model and of course, all textures.

Mr. Setekh how do I get this file over to you folks so others can use the Galaxy Class.

MLeoDaalder · **Reply #57 on:** December 12, 2003, 10:31:19 am

Cool!

I can't wait!

J3Vr6 · **Reply #58 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:39:49 pm

So how does the hi-poly version stand up framerate wise when other ships are in the mission?

Omniscaper · **Reply #59 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:12:45 pm

I'm using the latest build and it held up at a framerate that didn't go below 40. I had 2 Galaxies up against an Iceni cruiser with 4 squadrons of Hercules II. Then again it will depend on the system. I'm not including "Scotchy"'s 15k model till he finishes texturing it. In the mean time the stock model is 3k, but still pretty acccurate. The texture work is not as sharp but it is video card friendly. FPS much higher with this one, over 100fps in the same scenario.

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Author Topic: Omniscaper's hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots) (Read 37196 times)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

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Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)

Hi-poly Galaxy model (image heavy, in-game shots, model by Scotchy)