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Which higher power do you worship?

God and/or Jesus
29 (32.2%)
Allah
2 (2.2%)
Shiva, Vishnu and et al
0 (0%)
Buddah (doesn't really count as worship, I know)
5 (5.6%)
The State (communist/nazi idea IIRC)
0 (0%)
Science
6 (6.7%)
The Almighty Dollar
2 (2.2%)
I don't worship ANY invisible dude(s) in the sky - AKA atheist/agnostic
38 (42.2%)
Bill Gates
2 (2.2%)
Other
6 (6.7%)

Total Members Voted: 88

Voting closed: February 26, 2004, 10:54:00 am

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Offline Nico

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I worship myslef. I'm so great, that's only justice.
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Offline 01010

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[color=66ff00]Ohhh, just you wait 'til Kazan sees this thread, then by god there'll be hell to pay. :D

Maeglamor believes in the perfect ideal "each to his own". :nod:
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Exactly, tolerance, if only the world were more tolerant of each other beliefs it'd be a good start on turning things around on this ball of rock.

I don't even think we need to imagine what Kazan's going to say. Needless to say it won't be tolerant. :)

I personally only believe religion is a bad thing when it's twisted to meet someones ****ed ideals of a perfect world, like the Islamic and Christian fundamentalists.

In fact, in my view, the only reason that we don't have Christian fundamentalist suicide bombers is because they have the US army to fight for them.

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Reminds me of when you speak to that AI in Deus Ex (I forget its name. Could be Morpheus), and it talks of government surveillance being the replacement for religion.

 


I thought the A.I was called Icarus wasn't it?
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Offline Nuke

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all must remember that religion has always been used as a political tool, a good reasion why a majority of laws have a religous basis. it was politics which decided what went into the good book and it could have been very easy to mask political propaganda as biblical passage. politics and religion so closely intertwine that it is very easy to confuse them. my mistrust in politics is mirored with my distrust of religon.

if a higher being sent humanity profits, commandments, and texts, such a power did it in humanity's infancy. the human race, for lack of better terminology, is an entirely different animal today than it was thousands of years ago. all the knoledge we have of god today is heavily skewed and distorted by the passage of time and the will of evil man. if there is a gog, i think that everything we know about him is wrong, as in no longer accurate.
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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I thought the A.I was called Icarus wasn't it?


Different one. In a locked room in Everett's place, but nevermind.

 

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Different one. In a locked room in Everett's place, but nevermind.


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The mighty pound sterling.
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Offline Nuke

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where are all the muslims this morning, and i left out the ak47s for em
now where did i put the keys to the jumbo jet:rolleyes:
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Remember all those warnings you get about where the flamethrowers and exits are when you join? I suspect you're about to find out why...
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Offline Nuke

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i never joined, i signed up when [v] closed the other board. that was before everybody came to this forum.
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Offline vyper

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:rolleyes: You still deserve to be toasted for that comment.
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Offline Nuke

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it couldnt have been that bad
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I'm agnostic, with a healthy dose of scientific rationalism and secular humanism.

In my less religious moments, I'm not terribly concerned with the existence of a higher power. I don't buy into the idea of a loving God, so I also don't believe in a vengeful angry God. If anything, any sort of deity does not give a damn about my existence or worship or what happens here. Any being that can create a universe has a perspective so vast that individuals within it don't matter. Its like when you pick up a brick: the atoms that the brick is made of don't matter, only the amalgamation, the corpus of the brick matters.

In my more religious moments, I believe that God is just a handy label for the supreme wave function of the universe. That doesn't happen often though.
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]BTW guys, religion threads are OK with us provided you don't turn it into a flamewar. If you can't handle that, go lookie at the other threads on the forum.
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Agnostic. Proper agnostic, too.

 

Offline Su-tehp

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Atheist. I used to be agnostic, but after Mom died, I decided to stop waffling and became an atheist.

Which strikes me as a little odd, because people seem to get more spiritual after a death in the family, maybe in the hopes of seeing their loved ones again in some sort of afterlife...

As for me, I'd rather have the uncomfortable truth than ten thousand pleasant illusions. I'm never going to see my Mom again. Better that I live with that than be in denial about it.  *shrugs*

Besides, being an atheist is so much less complicated. Not to mention I can sleep in on Sundays. :D
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Offline Stunaep

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Agnostic. Not atheist. Agnostic. I'm cool with some uber-power, and as long as there is no concrete proof that it doesn't exist, I won't argue with someone who does.

As far as religion being the prime catalyst of war, anything can be a catalyst of war, when taken to extremes. When dosed in moderate amounts, religion is what keeps a lot of the poor and the unlucky in this world going, and despite everything an0n might say, I consider this a good thing.

And remember, at the times of the dark ages, religion was also the thing, that kept the collective human knowledge around, by storing and copying them in monasteries. And I consider this a matter-of-fact, that even if I don't believe that Allah exists, or that Jesus was the son of god, I do believe that there was more to them than the average Joe. Which is why I see no point in the why-should-we-care-about-MelGibson's-newest-movie-because-we're-all-atheists argument at all. He was the founder (or one of the founders for that matter) of something, that has affected the lives of everyone in Europe and America, so he should be respected for that. For the same reason, I believe that religious teachings should be in the school compulsory programme, not as much as a religious teaching, but more like focused history. They are embedded in the human culture so neatly, it has no point to just reject them. Remember, all of our moral values are based, to some extent on religion.
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Offline Nuke

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i just dont know if its a good idea to let the guy who played mad max be jesus, even with my atheist views.
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Um. Dude. Mad Max bankrolled it. James "Lightning Rod" Caviziel played Jesus.
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Offline aldo_14

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i just dont know if its a good idea to let the guy who played mad max be jesus, even with my atheist views.


Well, unless you're referring to a different film, he didn;t.  It was Jim Caveziel (SP?), Mel Gibson directed and funded it.

And probably has made a tidy profit, too.

EDIT:  Beaten to it. :p

 

Offline Nuke

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oh well, the only movie im waiting for is kill bill, volume 2

tarantino is god!!!
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