[Kazan]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/04/samesex.marriage.ap/index.html

****ing bigots!

[Kosh]

I'm only suprised that Texas did not beat them to it.

[Kazan]

i talked to a texan scouttroop leader yesterday who says Same Sex Marriage Ban Ammendment wouldn't pass in that state (And he's opposed to it)

[jdjtcagle]

I woneder how much research was actually put into what "gay" is before they made the approval

[Kazan]

none.. they're all a bunch of ****ing ignorant assholes who are attempting to impose their skewed view of reality on others

[Deepblue]

Thats exactly what you are doing right now. It passed and you may not agree with it, but more people (in that state) agree with it than those that don't.

[Kazan]

that doesn't matter one little ****ing bit deepblue - people do not have the right to deprive others of their human rights!

i'm not forcing them to do anything, i am saying that by denying other peoples human rights they are being bigots

[jdjtcagle]

Another example of why America is "too" free...
and that people truly don't know what is right.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Deepblue
Thats exactly what you are doing right now. It passed and you may not agree with it, but more people (in that state) agree with it than those that don't.

The danger of democracy, is that a majority group can opress the rights of a minority through weight of numbers.  This thing is an example - albiet a minor one in the grand scale of things (i.e. it's hardly on the level of Sudan/Darfur).

[Kazan]

the constitution is suppose to protect the few from the tyrancy of the many - but with people like bush and the other ****ing troglodyte neocons it doesn't get upheld because they'd rather hate!

[aldo_14]

Such is the problem of allowing religion to affect government.

[Kazan]

it's prohibited.. unless you choose not to read the constitution as the authors meant it

[jdjtcagle]

That is the wrong thing to do in today's society

[Kazan]

what are you refering to

[jdjtcagle]

Religion in the government

[Deepblue]

Thats why their are things called civil unions. As far as other things, like visitation rights, you can draw up a contract with a lawyer that would allow those rights that may not be specified under civil unions.

This is not about hate, this is about upholding the "sanctity" of marriage. Marriage always has been and always will be a religious affair (this does not need anymore explaining).

The problem is you cannot have equal rights when things are not equal. There are differences in either situation, and if things are different they cannot be treated equally.

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BTW:
mar·riage    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mrj)
n.

The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

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[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan
it's prohibited.. unless you choose not to read the constitution as the authors meant it

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to matter to Bush....otherwise this would be a non-issue (the only objection could be on religious grounds).

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by Kazan
it's prohibited.. unless you choose not to read the constitution as the authors meant it

Seperation of church and state isn't in the constitution.
In fact there are a few references to God in the constitution.

The reason America was created was primarily FOR religious freedom.

The truth is their is RIGHT and there is WRONG, no one can deny that. And things that are WRONG should not become RIGHT.

[Deepblue]

One thing that annoys me a great deal is that we have people in here forming oppinions about something they no nothing about. (How many people in here have studied US History, Constitution, ect. in great depth?) You are free to provide oppinions, but they are just that, oppinions that have been formed with little thought and research.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Deepblue


Seperation of church and state isn't in the constitution.
In fact there are a few references to God in the constitution.

The reason America was created was primarily FOR religious freedom.

The truth is their is RIGHT and there is WRONG, no one can deny that. And things that are WRONG should not become RIGHT.

IIRC is there not a specific part of the constitution that requires seperation of church and state? , for the specific purpose of allowing religious freedom (as laws, etc, made on a religious basis can be determintal and discriminator to other religions)