[Black Wolf]

The assets we're looking at are of much better quality than these.

What, exactly? AFAIK, (and I've looked, extensively) there's nothing really top drawer for Vasudans. A few WIPs (Oddgrim's being the most prominent), but nothing I've seen that compares with the new Hat, really.

[General Battuta]

The assets we're looking at are of much better quality than these.

What, exactly? AFAIK, (and I've looked, extensively) there's nothing really top drawer for Vasudans. A few WIPs (Oddgrim's being the most prominent), but nothing I've seen that compares with the new Hat, really.

It's going to take a little adaptation. We don't want to publicly commit right now, in case it's too much of a reach. 

[DarthWang]

I can has Gargant?

[Commander Zane]

I can has Gargant?

lol again?

[General Battuta]

I can has Gargant?

The Gargant is a relic from a very questionable period of design, when the community was still figuring out how to make good things. BP's philosophy has always been to make things more interesting and more fun, not to make them big and clumsy.

It's a little too old, a lot too ugly, and way too unwieldy to have any immediate place in our design.

[Jellyfish]

Gigas, then?

[General Battuta]

If the Shivans ever get involved again, they will have interesting things which are interesting to interact with, instead of large props that make for fascinating backgrounds.

[Shivan Hunter]

plz2stop suggesting Inferno ships, they very nearly all suck. Besides, if I know the BP team, new ships will be the least of the epic in the new campaigns.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I can has Gargant?

* Androgeos Exeunt hits DarthWang with a wand.

Isn't the Dante large enough for you already?

[DarthWang]

I just want to see the Gargant in a campaign at least once

[General Battuta]

I just want to see the Gargant in a campaign at least once

Inferno SCP has replaced the Gargant model twice. The current one is ass-ugly, but may make an appearance if INF SCP is ever taken off hold.


You will probably never see the original Gargant unless one of the two (three?) surviving INF members release the model.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I've asked this on Inferno twice before, but isn't there a screenshot of the Icanus beam-spamming the old Gargant?

[Buckshee Rounds]

A google search comes up with this: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=53590.0

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Yes, that. specifically, this one post: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=53590.msg1084051#msg1084051

[Flak]

Isn't the Dante much bigger than that?

[Jellyfish]

Hardly. The Dante is less than 7 km long, and the Icanus, which is smaller than the Gargant, is 15.

[General Battuta]

Size is relevant only inasmuch as it makes anything interesting to design missions with, and in the case of every ship of that size so far, size makes them less interesting, not more.

A 'good' ubership could be done. It may even be done here. But those models - Gigas, Gargant, Icanus - are of such low quality they're basically unusable.

[Mars]

The Sathanas was essentially a well done uber-ship of its time, was it not? The Colossus I remember thinking was pretty ugly at the time.

[General Battuta]

The Sathanas was not handled well in gameplay - High Noon was basically a playable cutscene. We aren't really able to discuss our plans on that front, but we're interested in allowing the player more to do in capship fights than 'destroy beam cannons' or 'bombs'.

[Mars]

High Noon was the worst mission of Freespace 2 I earnestly believe.

I love that you can skip long dialog if you are repeating a mission or simply just want to go straight to game play. That said, some of the hardest missions are some of the ones that REQUIRE you to sit and wait the most.