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Offline Dilmah G

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Brother, did you read the interview? They were keen on being given the chance to produce an FS3, but no, there is no FS3 in the works.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Jesus I don't even understand how you can be posting in this thread without having read the first post.

But I know reading is tough.

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Bah, no need for sarcasm, he had at least read until where Shivantown is mentioned. :P

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Jesus I don't even understand how you can be posting in this thread without having read the first post.

But I know reading is tough.

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There’s always hope. Not much, but it’s there.

:confused:

It hasn't been directly mentioned in the interview that FS 3 would be cancelled or made or whatever, but if ever you can blame my logical inability of course. :nod:

Bah, no need for sarcasm, he had at least read until where Shivantown is mentioned. :P


Honestly, I didn't have any idea the Shivans actually had a homeworld.
Perhaps right now you imagine be arsing off die-hard Star Wars and Halo fans in massive debate threads. What should I say?




With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Man, you should reaaaally read the interview again, these points were explored in some depth.

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Honestly, I didn't have any idea the Shivans actually had a homeworld.
Perhaps right now you imagine be arsing off die-hard Star Wars and Halo fans in massive debate threads. What should I say?



What does that have in relation to this?
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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Marcov is obviously one of the most stunning intellectuals to ever grace the HLP community. His insightful, relevant posts stimulate discussion and bring forth new, creative ideas without fail. Few members can hope to match the great legacy of coherence with which marcov has graced us all. Should we revere marcov as the magnificent beacon of debate that he is? In the words of his illustrious predecessor, woutersmits, "yes and now".

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
YOU MOST MAKE DEBATE
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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Don't make me have to split this thread, I didn't get much sleep last night and I really don't want to have to. If you force a knackered Flipside to think, he will remember... :p

At least when he wakes up he will.

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
I'd make a threat myself, but I'm too lazy to carry it through. :p

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Let marcov do it then .

 

Offline Marcov

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
What does that have in relation to this?

Just to dictate that I'm not currently into debating.

Also, someone has yet to explain how Freespace 3 is clearly cancelled within the interview. I see no significant statement that implies this.
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
There is nothing in the interview related to the cancellation of FreeSpace 3. Battuta simply asked Mr. Scott what :v:'s ideas for a theoretical FS3 was. That is all.
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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Also, FS3 can't be cancelled as it was never on the table to begin with. Marcov, the chances of anyone doing FS3 are extraordinarily slim, due to the following factors:
1. Space Sims, as a genre, are a complete niche product. For a company that wants to make money off of their games, going into a project like that is extremely risky.
2. Volition does not own the rights to the FreeSpace universe. It's owned by Interplay, who want an unreasonable amount of money for the rights.
2b. Interplay is not in the position to invest in a new game in the FS series, due to an acute case of being rather broke.
3. Volition is not an independent company. It is owned by THQ, meaning that any project they want to start has to be approved (and is funded by) THQ. Who are more interested in getting a good chance of selling something like a new Saint's Row than risking several million dollars developing a new FreeSpace.

So no. FS3 isn't cancelled. Because, in order to be cancelled, it would need to be started first, which noone has done or is in a position to do at this time. Is that clear enough for you?
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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
What does that have in relation to this?

Just to dictate that I'm not currently into debating.

Also, someone has yet to explain how Freespace 3 is clearly cancelled within the interview. I see no significant statement that implies this.

FreeSpace 3 was never greenlit. It can therefore never be cancelled.

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
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Is that clear enough for you?

Yep.

Quote from: Volition
We'd commit murder to make a FreeSpace 3.

Anyone explain this? Also, as stated earlier,

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There’s always hope. Not much, but it’s there.

Of what I understand, Mr. Scott says that there's little hope, but at least there is hope.

I'm not saying that there's a good possibilty for FS3, but still, just what do these statements mean?
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
It simply means that :v: would be more than willing to make FS3 if they are given the opportunity and resources. Given that :v: made FS1 and FS2, anybody who is willing to fund the development of FS3 would be more likely to approach them rather than some other development studio.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Re: AT LAST, THE TRUTH: Volition's Answers to the Shivans, Bosch, and Capella
Anyone explain this?

Easy. If copyrights didn't exist, and if Volition, like any other company, wasn't driven by profits, but by nostalgia emotionality, they would begin to work in Freespace 3 tomorrow.

Alas, this is planet earth, year 2011. Wake up.

 

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but at least there is hope.

No.

The chance of Interplay deciding to give the go-ahead on FS3 at present, in their current financial state, is zero. Even if Interplay picks up again, the chance is infinitesimal. SPACE SIMS ARE A NICHE MARKET at the moment, and there will likely be no FS3 until that changes.

So... don't expect FS3, basically.

 

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