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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Star Trek Discovery -- This is the good ****
I don't see myself giving a 7 to Orville anytime soon though, it has yet to surprise me in a good way first.

I agree the tree thing was hitchhiker's level of fun, but still. They could build entire stories around hitchhiker's shenanigans I would totally be more interested in that kind of stuff. You know, throw in some really silly outrageous setup, instead of these bland TNG tired concepts.

 

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Like I said earlier they might be trying to build up some bona fides as a TNG style show before doing stuff that's more out there.

I really hope that is the case actually.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Me too! Here's to that.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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So now apparently human space navigators are a thing. I guess the Discovery must flow.

Man this show is getting violent. And full of horrors. And distrust. Obvious spy is obvious. And it ends creepy as ****.

 

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I had no idea their bread was buttered that way up either but it wasn't creepy.
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I think he may be referring to their creepy mirror.

 

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Obvious spy is obvious.
I know, right? I can only assume Lorca brought him along because he wants to keep an eye on him, not because he actually trusts him.

(That, or Lorca is a lot dumber than I thought.)
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I think he may be referring to their creepy mirror.


And we have a bite.

 ;)



Who else thinks the klingon captain will be a recurring character? Also was it the first use of the F word in trek ever?


I still don't like the ginger cadet.   Very wooden.   Obviously she's going to have a new episode where she turns evil and OP.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery -- This is the good ****
Obvious spy is obvious.
I know, right? I can only assume Lorca brought him along because he wants to keep an eye on him, not because he actually trusts him.

(That, or Lorca is a lot dumber than I thought.)

Spoiler:
It's Voq

Who else thinks the klingon captain will be a recurring character?

Spoiler:
She already is
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Offline Luis Dias

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omg that would actually give his line "I've already lost one captain" a whole new level of levels. It also explains L'Rell's statement about sacrificing "everything". To me that is canon already. Didn't see it coming though, I feel dumb as ****.

 

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The banter writing though, is almost Mass Effect Andromeda quality.

 

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Well, I wanted to watch but I dont  have TV. And I went to the website, what is it, cbs? And I can only watch re runs if i am a paying customer. You guys know any alternative trusted websites I can watch the episodes from?
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The only other trusted source is Netflix (only available to non-US persons though).
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Also was it the first use of the F word in trek ever?
Yes. (I looked it up.)
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

Offline Mikes

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And now .... a ground hog day episode. How quaint. /sigh.

Dialoge is steadily deterioriating as well.

Mh well ... for a Trek show, it certainly does the "first season always sucks" thing right.
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I actually liked the last episode quite a bit.  Trek does the time loop thing a lot, but this was a rather refreshing take on it and Rainn Wilson was pretty damned awesome in it.

Also, either the switch is going to be really bad, or new guy definitely isn't the particular Klingon spy we thought he was, because there is no way in hell that a Klingon fanatic plays a convincing warm human that well. Nope nope nope.
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Also, either the switch is going to be really bad, or new guy definitely isn't the particular Klingon spy we thought he was, because there is no way in hell that a Klingon fanatic plays a convincing warm human that well. Nope nope nope.
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"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

Offline Mikes

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there is no way in hell that a Klingon fanatic plays a convincing warm human that well.

I don't think those writers are thinking that far. I don't think they know what a Klingon is either. /shrugs.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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I was entertained by the episode, Mudd was really good, but the story doesn't hold up. It's by far the worst time loop plot I've seen in Star Trek, apart from Generations. They don't build up the mechanisms through which they can win the scenario in an organic fashion, instead relying too much on the very trope-ish nature of the episode so that we may "fill in the blanks", but there are just too many blanks to fill. The episode goes through the motions very fast though, so you may not ask any hard questions and expose any contradictions or peculiarities.

The episode also ends quite poorly. After killing the crew several times in horrible ways, Mudd's punishment is marrying a lovely rich lady and being told not to disturb the Federation anymore. What the hell. After having this guy on their hands, they treat him with kid's gloves as if he had just made a small speed infraction.

 

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The episode also ends quite poorly. After killing the crew several times in horrible ways, Mudd's punishment is marrying a lovely rich lady and being told not to disturb the Federation anymore. What the hell. After having this guy on their hands, they treat him with kid's gloves as if he had just made a small speed infraction.

What did he actually do though, in that last run? All he did was a bit of breaking and entering into Discovery (which, granted, should be enough to make Lorca shoot him outright). The only witness to Mudd killing people is Stamets who, shall we say, is not exactly someone whose testimony will stand up in court. We know he killed people. Stamets knows (and Lorca, Saru and Burnham believe him), but other than that?
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