[LtNarol]

If he had nukes, the US would be a crater.

one the biggest reasons why the European nations wants to leave him be is they're taking the politically correct route, Bush on the other hand is a redneck who wants to finish what his old man didnt.

[Tiara]

*cough*

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by Tiara


Again you act as if we kknow everything... WE DON'T! He might have dozens of 'm in a secret bunker somewhere...

BTW, The alqaida have demonstrated the capability to release chemical gasses. It was on the news. And not scared of a nuke? Wait till it blows near your...

so this is why we shouldn't atack, becase were afriad of him
if anything what you just sayed is the reason why we've got to go in now
cowering in terror at this is the death song of western civilisation

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Bobboau


so this is why we shouldn't atack, becase were afriad of him
if anything what you just sayed is the reason why we've got to go in now
cowering in terror at this is the death song of western civilisation

Ahem... I mean we should be CAREFULL. Is that so hard to understand? Ppl just want to rush in. And believe me, it will fail. Major riots will arise against the agression of the UN/US (Always stupid ppl around).

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Tiara


Again you act as if we kknow everything... WE DON'T! He might have dozens of 'm in a secret bunker somewhere...

BTW, The alqaida have demonstrated the capability to release chemical gasses. It was on the news. And not scared of a nuke? Wait till it blows near your...

I said "Nukes dont scare me AS MUCH"

Also if he had nukes, we'd know, cos he would use them. Also we do know a lot about his activities, just seems everybody wants this top secret data to ogle over.

[LtNarol]

The European nations want to keep their hands clean by using apeasment again (remember WWII? its happening again).  The US on the other hand knows that Iraq will use its weapons of mass destruction without hesitation whenever Hussain feels like pushing the big red button, if they had Nukes the US would know because the US would be feeling them.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Zeronet


I said "Nukes dont scare me AS MUCH"

Also if he had nukes, we'd know, cos he would use them. Also we do know a lot about his activities, just seems everybody wants this top secret data to ogle over.

Hes a madman but NOT stupid! If he'd use 'm he knows hes a dead man. He keeps them as a failsafe device so he can keep his regiem.

[LtNarol]

Given how much he hates the US, I think that he'd be mass producing Nukes and firing them over to the US as they come off the the assembly line...Although im not sure his original reason for hating the US so much, its enough that he does.  What I have to say to the European nations is simple: what will you do when the US is nothing more than a crater and Hussain feels the urge to expand his influence.  Will the French intervene? With their pathetic army? Don't make me laugh, at least the UK has a decent airforce and navy.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by LtNarol
Given how much he hates the US, I think that he'd be mass producing Nukes and firing them over to the US as they come off the the assembly line...Although im not sure his original reason for hating the US so much, its enough that he does.  What I have to say to the European nations is simple: what will you do when the US is nothing more than a crater and Hussain feels the urge to expand his influence.  Will the French intervene? With their pathetic army? Don't make me laugh, at least the UK has a decent airforce and navy.

I never said we should do nothing at all. I merely stated that if we invade head on we will be creating more problems then we have.

All the things that will come with war are BAD. Only victory is good but often tastes bitter.

[Bobboau]

if he nukes us then there isn't much need to worry about the environmental impact of a few more (of our) nukes going off,
he does not want to play that game

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Bobboau
if he nukes us then there isn't much need to worry about the environmental impact of a few more (of our) nukes going off,
he does not want to play that game

Exactly. Even saddam isn't THAT stupid.

[LtNarol]

Invading Iraq would be very costly to any nation that participates in it, but doing nothing will end up costing more, and in this I do agree with the Americans.  Hit him now while we still can.

As for how, I remember the US's F-117s did rather well against Iraqs air defenses, and the B-2 bombers followed them in hitting the installations.

[Bobboau]

but he might pass them off to some of his frends
I want him taken out as fast and completly as posable

[Tiara]

Originally posted by LtNarol
Invading Iraq would be very costly to any nation that participates in it, but doing nothing will end up costing more, and in this I do agree with the Americans.  Hit him now while we still can.

As for how, I remember the US's F-117s did rather well against Iraqs air defenses, and the B-2 bombers followed them in hitting the installations.

I know something needs to be done. But we can't just go in head on. We need to plan things carefully if we wish to hit him so hard that he will barely be able to retaliate. And this is NOT an easy thing so we shouldn't rush things.

[Bobboau]

well what would you sudjest

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Bobboau
well what would you sudjest

1). Survey Iraq with satallites for force concentrations.
2). Use intel. to gain information on who is supporting them.
3). (If possible) Neutralize any supporting force.
4). Precision strikes on targets sighted by satallite.
5). Mass attack now they are weakened.

-This but with MAJOR planning-

Reasons for failure -

*Miss and hit a city or civil target.
*Fail to eliminate all troops thus leaving room for a nasty resistance faction.
*High risk of riots.
*etc, etc, etc....

[Tiara]

Ow and I forgot the economical impact this would have. As seen with the WTC terrorist strike it severely degraded the economical status. With this war it will degrade even further.

[Bobboau]

1) done
2) done (there have been SF guys in Iraq for the last seven months)
3) not sure what you mean
4) will be done in three days
5) within a month Iraq will be like Afganistan is today, wich is better than it was a year ago

we can't be too concerned with hiting civilian targets, there the bad guys untill Sadam falls, so though we arn't going to be aiming for it, and we'll be embarised and sorry when we hit schools and hospitals, it's war, **** happens

most of there troops surendered (to recon drones!!!) in that last war, I don't see any reason why this should be diferent this time

I don't think there'll be many riots, were not going to enslave these people, were going to set up a national democratic republic, there is already a bunch of people redy to assume this role

[Bobboau]

not if you invest in munitions manufactures

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Bobboau
1) done
2) done (there have been SF guys in Iraq for the last seven months)

Doubt they'll see everything.

3) not sure what you mean

I mean eliminate them from the game.

4) will be done in three days

AHEM!

5) within a month Iraq will be like Afganistan is today, wich is better than it was a year ago

And with that new terrorist factions will arise... Wich will be FAR more radical then those we have today.

we can't be too concerned with hiting civilian targets, there the bad guys untill Sadam falls, so though we arn't going to be aiming for it, and we'll be embarised and sorry when we hit schools and hospitals, it's war, **** happens

True but some ppl might think differently.

most of there troops surendered (to recon drones!!!) in that last war, I don't see any reason why this should be diferent this time

If WE invade them they will think differently. They will blame us. They knew that last time they were to blame. This time that is not the thruth (from their viewpoint).

I don't think there'll be many riots, were not going to enslave these people, were going to set up a national democratic republic, there is already a bunch of people redy to assume this role

Imeant riots in our countries. You always have those peace lovin'  ppl who don't want war one way or another. (Sad but true)