[Kazan]

Originally posted by Flipside
Physcohistory

Daneel dectects that you are in an agreeable mood and making wise references

[mikhael]

Psychohistory? I really need to read the Foundation series. The only book that features Psychohistory I ever read was the unofficial, not-in-the-same-world-honest story "Psychohistorical Crisis". That was more kick ass than I have words for.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
I shoulda laid a bet at the beginning of this thread as to how long we could go without a pedophile priest joke.

Woulda lost, but anyway.

10 pages too long.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by mikhael


He IS a priest, Sandwich. Why shouldn't Trashman believe him?

And I'm an honest guy. Why shouldn't you believe me?

Priest, prophet, or pastor, it doesn't matter who they are or how much credentials they have - if what they say does not line up with the Bible, they're wrong. At least, that's how Christians are supposed to live. :-/

[Bobboau]

you mean the book that is in it's current form only becase empirer Constanteen wanted to order fifty of them and they didn't want to have to tell him a few years later that they chenged there minds about something.

[mikhael]

Ah, but see, we only have YOUR word that your interpretation of a dusty tome is accurate. This priest has a different interpretation and he'll tell you its accurate.

This side of death, neither of you can prove the other wrong and yourself right. That's the central ambiguity of all religion.

[Bobboau]

I got it!
all we've got to do is have one of us die! then they can tell us wich one is right!

...not it!

[TrashMan]

@KT - I don't have a lil' brother you psycho....

@Sandwich - I do think a Priest knows far better then you the core of Christianity. And I didn't ask just one priest - I asked several....they all agree...

@kajorama - Christians get a bonus:D

[Setekh]

I think I agree with that pretty solidly, Mik, at least in the sense I think you mean it. But I think that interpretations of tomes (mine isn't dusty, I fling it around too much ) aren't all equally valid. Some just don't make sense of the text totally, and some don't make sense of the world around us.

[Ghostavo]

TrashMan... lol

[karajorma]

Originally posted by TrashMan
@kajorama - Christians get a bonus:D

Fair enough but what is it? An extra big house in heaven?

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Setekh
I think I agree with that pretty solidly, Mik, at least in the sense I think you mean it. But I think that interpretations of tomes (mine isn't dusty, I fling it around too much ) aren't all equally valid. Some just don't make sense of the text totally, and some don't make sense of the world around us.

I mean that there are many interpretations, and none of them can be proved to be the 'right' or 'correct' one. I am making no claims as to the validity of ANY of them, however. The short form: "You can prove some of them wrong, but you can't prove any of them right."

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by TrashMan
@Sandwich - I do think a Priest knows far better then you the core of Christianity. And I didn't ask just one priest - I asked several....they all agree...

First of all.... "priest"? I'm a "priest", for one thing - Cohen. Michael Cohen. Not that that really means much in my case, just thought I'd bring it up.

But seriously, read your Bible. That is the core of Christianity, and if a priest is saying what you said they were saying, then they're ignorant of the Bible.

[Goober5000]

From what I've heard, the Catholic church maintains a deep respect for other religions, saying that truth can be found in all of them.

That much I agree with.  But some people extend that to say that all religions are true, or that all religions get you into heaven.  Which I disagree with.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Sandwich

But seriously, read your Bible. That is the core of Christianity, and if a priest is saying what you said they were saying, then they're ignorant of the Bible.

It would seem that these priests, considering they ARE priests, have read the Bible, and have come up with an interpretation that is different than your interpretation.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by karajorma


Fair enough but what is it? An extra big house in heaven?

A slight discount regarding their sins methinks:D Or 70 hot vergins! Make your pick!

@Sandwich - what is the core of Christianity? Didn't Christ say that he came for all men (not just Jews/Christinas) Remember the story of the good samaritan? Remember the mercy he showed to everyone, regarless of whom they were?
God loves those who do good. You tell me - why wouldn't he then reward them for their good deeds?

And you a priest? Of what relegion/faith/cult/sect?
And I did ask several priest, some of which i know very good, some of which I'm related to, and they are all some of the best men I ever met. I would say you were outvoted.....

[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by Goober5000
From what I've heard, the Catholic church maintains a deep respect for other religions, saying that truth can be found in all of them.

The Catholic church also negotiated a sort of non-agression thingy with the Nazis

[TrashMan]

The first step to better oneself is to admitt your mistakes and try to correct them...

I don't recall ever seeing other religions doing that....


And you seem to forget that the Catholic Church is not a state. It doesn't have a army to fight, and Vatican is in the middle of Rome.

[Ghostavo]

Maybe that's because other religions don't make such mistakes!! (just kidding)

[diamondgeezer]

So the Vatican's duty was to save itself and it's followers before protesting against the Nazis? I appreciate that maybe they thought they could save people (ie. catholic people) from the oncomming juggernaut, but saving their own asses instead of standing up to a force of evil sucks major egg in my opinion