[Kazan]

tis a poll folks, you know what to do

(SHS = Second Hand Smoke)

For the record: I voted for "No - despise"

[phreak]

no - dont mind.

[kasperl]

i rarely mind if it's in a well ventilated location.

and no, i don't smoke.

[Fineus]

Option 3, but I realise that - in a pub or club - it's unavoidable and something I just have to deal with. I despise people inconsideratly blowing it my way though, better they raise their heads slightly and blow it above people.

[Kazan]

Kalfireth: indeed, willingly going into a place where you know there is going to be a lot means you have to deal with it

(I do not go to those places )

[01010]

You gotta be more specific on what's being smoked.

[Rictor]

I remember this from a few weeks ago.

No - and don't mind.

[Thorn]

Word..... I smoke marijuana.. but not tobacco..
Second hand tobacco smoke irritates my eyes witch gives me roaring headaches.....

[Kazan]

I am obvioously talking about tobacco since fortunately in my country marijuana is still illegal (and tobacco should join it!)

[Petrarch of the VBB]

So this is what you do for entertainment is it? Start debates about things that you know will spark off flamings?

Nice

[Kazan]

Petrarch: actually i was curious - i am debating this on another forum with some people of extremely wretched logical ability - they are constantly resorting to ad hominem, ad populli and ad ignorantium to try and "win"

[Rictor]

You can't win. Its a matter of opinion. Its like your favourite colour. You can't win arguements based on opinions not facts.

[01010]

Originally posted by Kazan
I am obvioously talking about tobacco since fortunately in my country marijuana is still illegal (and tobacco should join it!)

It's illegal in my country too, doesn't stop me smoking it.
Tobacco is just a waste, it doesn't do anything for you, however a nice fat bong. Mmmmm.

[Kazan]

Rictor: actually it's not a matter of opinion - it's actually a matter of rights

[01010]

People have the right to walk away from people smoking.

[Taristin]

Me no smoke. No like SHS. But I have to deal with it anyway.

There are laws here that prohibit smoking within 25 feet of building entrances and air intakes, yet everyone huddles around the door, making it hard to enter the building, let alone breathe freely.

It's even worse on rainy days.

[Rictor]

The smoker's rights as well as your own.

[Rictor]

Raa: Can you honestly not tolerate the what, 3 seconds?,  of SHS that it takes to enter/exit a building? Very soon, smokers are going to be treated like lepers, its quite horendous.

[Kazan]

Rictor: actually it's not "quite horrendous" - any exposure to second hand smoke against your will is a violation of your rights and your body - smokers deserve to be treated like lepers, and the lepers didn't deserve it! So we should be saying the lepers were beeing treated as the smokers should be.

They are consciouslly making the decision to poison their body, and then additionally do not care that they are violation other peoples rights - and when informed try to make the other person be "EVIL", "FASCIST", etc -- they are basically saying they have the right to poison you and you can do nothing about it

01010: I can _smell_ a smoker well over 100 yards away in open air - and tobacco (or marijuana) smoke is harmful at any concentration and the concerntration required for it to be perceivable is fairly high even for someone with a sensative nose like my own

[Admiral LSD]

They could just give up smoking but that would be sensible...