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Do you smoke

Yes
10 (14.3%)
No - but i do not mind SHS
12 (17.1%)
No - and I despise SHS
48 (68.6%)

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Voting closed: April 08, 2004, 11:45:05 am

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Offline 01010

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01010: technically you don't know if you've exposed someone to your second hand weed smoke - which is equally a human rights violation


I think I'd notice if they were exposed to second hand weed smoke. ;)

I don't smoke it around anyone that doesn't smoke it anyway because I do have consideration for other peoples feelings.
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01010: "not smoking around anyone" i guess you're talking about inside your house - your house is not isolated from air circulation with the outside world - I walk by houses all the time and smell losers inside
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They should shower more often then.
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01010: technically you don't know if you've exposed someone to your second hand weed smoke - which is equally a human rights violation


:eek2: :eek2:

To the gallows with him! A murderer, a black murderer! How could any man be so evil, so rotten to the core as to..I-I can't even say it, its so horrible. Surely, people like him have no place in our society of order and peace.

Civilization is sterilization.

 

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01010: "not smoking around anyone" i guess you're talking about inside your house - your house is not isolated from air circulation with the outside world - I walk by houses all the time and smell losers inside


Ok, sorry man but thats just taking it too far. I mean, you went too far with that 100m thing, but this is absurd.

Take some Zoloft and hide in the deepest shelter you can. You're not ready for the outside world.

 

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01010: by losers I meant smokers (or either type)

Rictor: faulty logic, get out of this thread you imflamatory ass
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01010: "not smoking around anyone" i guess you're talking about inside your house - your house is not isolated from air circulation with the outside world - I walk by houses all the time and smell losers inside

Well, you shouldn;t be sniffing thorugh peoples letterboxes then, should you?

 

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:eek2: :eek2:

To the gallows with him! A murderer, a black murderer! How could any man be so evil, so rotten to the core as to..I-I can't even say it, its so horrible. Surely, people like him have no place in our society of order and peace.

Civilization is sterilization.


The funny thing is, I'm a paragon of order and peace, I'm the rock for a lot of people who's lives are really messed up and I help them I really do. I love the fact that someone WALKING PAST MY HOUSE could potentially call me a murderer because I "polluted" the air they breathe in that small area.

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Well, you shouldn;t be sniffing thorugh peoples letterboxes then, should you?


:lol:
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01010: i never said anything about "murder" - i said human rights violation
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Implying the same thing as far as your reaction in this thread has been.
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i know!  Lets have a law agianst farting too!

Serisously, I'm all for banning smoking becaue it's unhelathy for the smoker.  i'm all for banning smoking in public areas because it's potentiall unhealty for the public, and because it gets on my tits.

But banning smoking in private property because someone might walk past?  That's just ****ing stupid.

 

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01010: technically when someone exposes me to second hand smoke they are introducing a poison into my body - So I'm entitled to a rather strong reaction
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aldo_14: someone _will_ talk past - they're polluting the air - there is nothing different about "private property" than "public property" when it comes to the emissions of aerosols - otherwise we couldn't ban industry from polluting the air

someone on the other forum made that assanine fart analogy - you know whyt it doesn't work, methane is a "simple asphfixant" (sp?), it kills by displacing air - so unless your traped in a completely sealed room with a canister of methane that's leaking you're going to be fine - and even in that situation the methane has to displace air until the concentration of oxygen falls below 18% and then you jsut start to have problems
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i know!  Lets have a law agianst farting too!

Serisously, I'm all for banning smoking becaue it's unhelathy for the smoker.  i'm all for banning smoking in public areas because it's potentiall unhealty for the public, and because it gets on my tits.

But banning smoking in private property because someone might walk past?  That's just ****ing stupid.


See, the public banning of smoking is a non-issue for me, the only thing that really bothers me about smoking is the smell on my clothes, but I understand and respect your viewpoint because in my younger days it was one I shared.

It'd be more than a little hypocritical for me to moan about it now though :)

Yeah the smoking in private property thing is exactly the kind of thing that is just stupid, it's completely over the top and is a violation of the right to do what you like with your own body, which I thought Kazan would have been for.
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aldo_14: someone _will_ talk past - they're polluting the air - there is nothing different about "private property" than "public property" when it comes to the emissions of aerosols - otherwise we couldn't ban industry from polluting the air

someone on the other forum made that assanine fart analogy - you know whyt it doesn't work, methane is a "simple asphfixant" (sp?), it kills by displacing air - so unless your traped in a completely sealed room with a canister of methane that's leaking you're going to be fine - and even in that situation the methane has to displace air until the concentration of oxygen falls below 18% and then you jsut start to have problems


Well - don't walk past.  Problem solved.  If you have the hyper-senstive nostrils you claim to have, you should be able to easily avoid this oh-so-dangerous pitfall.

 

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Well - don't walk past.  Problem solved.  If you have the hyper-senstive nostrils you claim to have, you should be able to easily avoid this oh-so-dangerous pitfall.


Yeah, I mean, you should be able to tell what streets you can and can't walk down at least five minutes before you get there.

Maybe you should buy a gas mask or something?
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01010: the "right to do whatever you want to your own body" is overruled in that particular case because your excercise of it violates otherpeople's rights

you're only free to take advantage of your rights only so far as it doesn't violate someone elses

aldo_14: by the definition of rights If i have to alter my behavior because of them they're violating my right - and it's not easy to avoid this "oh-so-dangerous" pitfall - it's toxic as soon as the concentration goes >0 ppm - and it's still a while until any human can smell it - it's violating other peoples rights plain and simple, "private" property is not isolated from "public property" in terms of aerosol exchange and therefore no differentiation can be made
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Or!  We can put fumagaton tests around every house - that way Kazans' nostrils will be saved from the harsh acrid stench of a single cigarette in the bottom of a sealed plastic bag in a bin.

 

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Kazan, if I were you I'd not worry so much about your lungs, I'd worry more about your heart because the amount of stress you must put on it arguing your redundant point so venhemently can't be doing it any good.
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aldo: it has nothing to do with the smell you ignorant fool - even if i couldn't smell it it would still be a human rights violation -- SHS is is POISONOUS
[edit] im perfeclty healthy
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