[01010]

What makes me laugh is that (over here anyway) the government is quick enough to take the huge amounts of money that smoking taxes create, yet they want to ban it. Be consistent, people can either smoke where the **** they like or not at all, you can't have a legal drug that you can't take anywhere because it's hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Admiral: I'd like to see you just kick a substance that is more addictive than heroin.

[an0n]

I don't give a **** about second-hand smoke as long as people: A) Aren't smoking in my house, and B) Are willing to give me a cig if I ask.


I don't smoke, but I'm a peer-pressure-whore in that if there are people smoking around me, I will too.

I think the best way to put it would be: I don't smoke, but I can.

[ionia23]

Here's a thought, wouldn't it be nifty if some of the bread being spent on tobacco cessation measures could be used to find ways to render tobacco harmless?

[Admiral LSD]

Originally posted by 01010
Admiral: I'd like to see you just kick a substance that is more addictive than heroin.

By not starting in the first place.

[Flipside]

The worst part is that the money from our smoking is supposed to go to the NHS. If it did, we would have the best Health Service in the world, and it would be free.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Rictor
Raa: Can you honestly not tolerate the what, 3 seconds?,  of SHS that it takes to enter/exit a building? Very soon, smokers are going to be treated like lepers, its quite horendous.

I didn't say I couldn't tolerate it. I just said I don't like it.

My Dad used to smoke, and my grandparents are like chimnies.  I manage to hold my breath for the 3-20 seconds it takes to get in (depending on which direction the wind is blowing)

And Lepracy isn't a choice. Smoking is.

[Kazan]

01010: it's not "hypocrisy to the highest degree" when you supporting BANNING it


Admiral LSD: sensability is losed on the Id-dominated mind (now im getting into the psychology of smoking)

[an0n]

Originally posted by 01010
Admiral: I'd like to see you just kick a substance that is more addictive than heroin.

......Anyone addicted to anything is a goddamn pussy.

I've taken all kinds of **** and been able to stop at the drop of a hat.

[Joey_21]

Smoking is a nasty habit if you ask me... both my parents are smokers and it has always been an annoyance to me whenever I'm around them. Fortunately I don't have to be around it all that much so I think my lungs will stay in good shape.

[Fineus]

And so it should be. Smoking has been proven to cause illness. Before people start smoking - they get by fine without it. Why then should non-smokers feel awkward or inconvenienced when they attempt to enter or leave an office? Not to mention the effect smoke has on clothing and a rooms paint / wallpaper over extended periods.

If people insist on smoking, they should be prepared to be inconvenienced in common places since they do cause headaches, coughing and worse.. much worse.

[Kazan]

it's nice to be one a forum with more equal numbers and civil behavior

on the other forum I am the only one oppsoed, so you can just imagine the tossing out the word fascist, etc - especially after they've already formed wild presumptions about my philosophy

[01010]

Originally posted by Admiral LSD


By not starting in the first place.

Which is great, join the club, I think cigarettes are vile and serve no purpose other than to line the pockets of fat white ****s who don't give a **** of the consequences of their "product". However, lots of people who smoke are the product of systematic advertising campaigns from tobacco companies, they advertise their **** to kids and that's not right.

I pity smokers, I don't hate them. The same way I pity anyone that has a physical addiction to anything, but that's just me y'know, more compassion than logic I guess.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Kazan
*snip*

Yes, but you do not have the awesome power of Photshop.

[Admiral LSD]

Originally posted by 01010


Which is great, join the club, I think cigarettes are vile and serve no purpose other than to line the pockets of fat white ****s who don't give a **** of the consequences of their "product". However, lots of people who smoke are the product of systematic advertising campaigns from tobacco companies, they advertise their **** to kids and that's not right.

I pity smokers, I don't hate them. The same way I pity anyone that has a physical addiction to anything, but that's just me y'know, more compassion than logic I guess.

Given that you've freely admitted on several occasions that you smoke dope I find this response absolutely hilarious.

[ChronoReverse]

It's interesting to note that SHS is actually much worse than the primary stuff you get when _you're_ the one smoking.

If I get someone's SHS only part of the time he smokes, I'm more likely to get lung cancer.

[Kazan]

Rictor: how insulting, presumptous and downright rude - i suppose you smoke from your reaction.  Germs are everywhere, we have an immune system to deal with them and we cannot avoid them

Smoking is a choice, and second hand smoke is a violation of human rights.

[01010]

Originally posted by Admiral LSD




Given that you've freely admitted on several occasions that you smoke dope I find this response absolutely hilarious.

Please elaborate why? Smoking dope has been my own conscious decision, it's not been advertised to me and I'm certainly not addicted to it.

Cigarettes serve no purpose other than to feed a craving that is caused by smoking them, there is no reason to ever smoke cigarettes because they have no effect if you aren't addicted.

[Zeronet]

Smoking costs the NHS more than it regains in taxes. Not to mention, the incredible amount of suffering/death it causes.

[Flipside]

Zero, the NHS gets practically no money from smokers is why, the money is diverted to 'other government concerns'. THAT is the only reason smoking costs the NHS so much.

[01010]

Originally posted by Zeronet
Smoking costs the NHS more than it regains in taxes. Not to mention, the incredible amount of suffering/death it causes.

It does cost the NHS more yes but that's because not all the money from smoking taxes is allocated to it like it should be.

Like I say, in an ideal world the evil ****s that run the tobacco industry would be the ones that are persecuted, not the poor bastards that got sucked into their web.