[ChronoReverse]

Funky...

[Carl]

i made some hi-res subspace maps, if anyone can give me somewhere to put them, i'll e-mail them to you.

[Lightspeed]

Nice. I'm really interested.

Bad thing bout mik's model, though

[Flipside]

Hmmmmmmm... Well, there no reason the model even has to be that shape as far as I can see. You could make a cylinder round the outside, which is stationary, and put any shape you like inside it, as long as it can rotate within the cylinder? You would at the very least get an interesting cyclone effect

[Lightspeed]

But as its transparent you can see the outer edges and other bad stuff as you can see on Raa's screenie.

[Flipside]

Hmmmmmmmm... I thought that was just intersecting polys between the inner and outer models, If you made the outer object big enough to encompass the inner model and it's rotation area, I'm actually not sure what it would look like.
If I can be bothered tomorrow I'll make it and take a look

[Taristin]

It doesn't matter what size the model is, the game resizes it. The actual pof size is 25x25x334. That's not big enough for how it's used anyway.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Carl
i made some hi-res subspace maps, if anyone can give me somewhere to put them, i'll e-mail them to you.

...any takers?

[Antares]

Doesn't jdtcagle usually volunteer to host these sorts of things?

And if not, can you put it on swooh?

[Carl]

don't have the patience to register at swooh, wait for a response ect. i'll wait for jdtcagle or anyone else.

[mikhael]

Actually, I kinda like the way it looks, but I can see why its most people wouldn't.

Ah well.

[Ulala]

Originally posted by Carl
i made some hi-res subspace maps, if anyone can give me somewhere to put them, i'll e-mail them to you.

I won't be able to post 'em, but can you e-mail them to me anyway? I'm interested to see how it looks. E-mail addy is in profile.. would post it, but I'm paranoid about it getting all over the net and sending me pr0n..
Thanks, Carl.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Ulala
E-mail addy is in profile..

no it isn't.

[Sandwich]

Carl? My 3dap.com account.

As for the transparency of the model... doesn't the way the game always positions the model around the player's POV mean that we could actually trim away everything on the POF except for what we have direct line-of-sight on, and the player would never see the difference? So basically it'd SEEM like the tunnel twists and turns beyond our vision, but since the player can never reposition his POV relative to the tunnel model, he'll never be able to actually see "around the corner" to know that the model actually ends right where his LOS on it does.

[StratComm]

Good call sandwich.  That would actually work perfectly, provided you get a good approximation of the edges of the visable model.  I'd suggest doubling the number of sides around the diameter too, but that's a minor thing.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Carl? My 3dap.com account.

post email address. i e-mail to you it.

[Sandwich]

I'm not gonna post my email for all the world to spam. Extrapolate from my username and the 3dap.com part - that's it.

[Lightspeed]

Or send it to ed.xmg@10deepsthgil (if you read it the wrong way round)

[Ulala]

Originally posted by Carl


no it isn't.

Ehhh.... that's odd. My bad.

[Vanguard]

Originally posted by Rah Tor'h
Ok. of talk, with little results.

I made the polies less visible, but without new maps, it's doomed to look Horrid.

That one doesn't look bad itself.  Definitely more to subspace than in the original Freespace 1 model.

Originally posted by Liberator
It's really a good use of irony, subspace seems slower, when in fact it is a million times faster that anything in normal space.

BTW, a tactical jump, as seen in Inferno, should be near-instantaneous.  Given the nature of subspace.

Yes indeed.  Did anyone ever play that old campaign Boomerang?  During the second mission they had a ship jump out and jump back in again without that funny character trick.  

Originally posted by Rah Tor'h
Bad news all. Mik's subspace is a no go. Heres why:

First, you have to know how the subspace system works; 2 pof files are used, subspace_big and subspace_small. Subspace_big is the light blue one that rotates on the outside. While both models' textures are 'pulled' along the z-axis in game, only subspace_big actually rotates. Also, the textures are transparent, so Mik's mesh makes subspace look like.. well, this:

Is that necessarily bad?  It looks cool in that picture.  I guess you have to see it in motion to see the bad stuff, no?

Originally posted by mikhael

Actually, I kinda like the way it looks, but I can see why its most people wouldn't.

Ah well.

It looks sort of cool really.