[Su-tehp]

Peeps, I just want to let you know that I was here in our nation's capital for the pro-choice rally known as the March for Women's Lives. Estimates of how many people attended this march range from 800,000 to 1,150,000 people of all ages, races and both genders. But even with the low end number of 800,000 (which seems a little low in my opinion; the entire Washington Mall from the Capitol building to BEYOND the Washington Monument was FILLED with people), this march in our nation's capital was without doubt the LARGEST protest march in America's history.

(You know what that means? If there isn't life on other planets, then this rally qualifies as the largest protest march in the history of the Universe!)

WOOT!

All you peeps here in the USA who don't like ****, DON'T FORGET TO VOTE FOR KERRY IN NOVEMBER!

Man, this was really a great day. For the past three and a half years, I've had my doubts, but today I feel proud to be an American again.

EDIT: Lol, I forgot that our President's name was bleeped out with 4 asterisks by the automatic censor. Oh, well. In six more months we're not gonna need to type it anymore!

Oh, of course there were "pro-life" counter-protestors there, but only about 1,500 of them. Man, I love it when me and my friends outnumber the opposition 1000 to 1. Now, THOSE are the kinds of odds I can live with.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
All you peeps here in the USA who don't like ****, DON'T FORGET TO VOTE FOR KERRY IN NOVEMBER!

[Bobboau]

I think I'm gona vote Libertarian

[an0n]

I think I'm gonna vote ****.

[Grey Wolf]

Realistically, if you want your vote to count for anything, you have to vote for Kerry or ****. If you vote for any other left-leaning candidate (Nader, for example), it's basically a vote for ****. Likewise, a vote for a right-leaning candidate is basically a vote for Kerry.

Me? I'm not voting, since I'll be about 6 months short.

[Turambar]

Bobby, i hope you're joking

First priority, getting rid of ****, then you can go do your libertarian thing in the next election

Edit: What does it think we're saying, female pubic hairs?

[Su-tehp]

Originally posted by Bobboau
I think I'm gonna vote Libertarian

You could also vote for Nader, Bobby. That would be just about as useless a gesture.

[an0n]

What's with this 'Bobby' thing?

Are we all just jumping on the bandwagon or is there some actual reason for it?

[Turambar]

*is waiting for Bobbau to object...*

[Grey Wolf]

I think it has about as much rational as "Turrents" and "Hangers"

[an0n]

I swear to God, if I had a machine that could slap people over the internet....

[Bobboau]

...you'd be a rich man.

my comment was directed at me not likeing either, I don't realy like Bush, but I'm not going to vote for someone who's only quality is that he isn't Bush. so I don't want to vote for Bush or notBush

I'd vote for Kerry if the rumor about him getting McCain as a running mate pans out, but outside of that doubt it.

[JR2000Z]

How many guys were there? Besides yourself?

[Rictor]

800k is not the biggest protest march, not even close. There were numbers in excess of 1.5 million in certain European cities during the big February 15th anti-war marches last year. Though I find it extremely disheartening that this event got a ****load of people to show up, but something as trivial as war.....nah.

The Anyone But **** crowd are deluding themselves if they think Kerry is in any significant way different than ****. He's a born and bred politcian, very wealth. Hell, they're both Bonesmen, can't get more arisocratic than that.

Democracy is not about picking the lesser of two evils. The American people have it stuck in their heads that there can only be two parties and thats that. Two parties is hardly what you would call a functioning democracy, when they all feed from the same trough. There is this notion that American politics are "more civilized than the barbarian hordes" who have themselves a revolution when things get really out of hand. Well, these nations who take to the streets and overthrow a tyrant instead of flailing about helplessly and whining to each other, they've got the heuvos to make democracy mean something.

When the politicians and the comitees and the endless debates, the lies, the mudslinging, the corporate payola, the broken promises, the passing of blame and general failiure to obey the will of the people - when they all fail, sitting around and voting for Kerry ain't gonna help. When it comes to the point when the Left is the Right and the Right is off the chart, being a pussy about it isn't going to change anything.

But thats just me aqnd I could be wrong.

also, were I an American, I'de vote for ****. Give the world four more years of Dubya, and then we'll see how far the American empire goes.

[Bobboau]

yeah, er, sort of...

I think of the two party system as the biggest problem with modern American politics.

[Grey Wolf]

The two part thing is basically because of a flaw in the system. Unless a third party as massive grass-roots support, it can't really compete with the RNC or DNC, as they both have massive amounts of funds. Also, the electoral college makes it hard for a third party to be anything other than a spoiler. Look at Ross Perot. He had a fairly significant number of popular votes, but he had basically no electoral votes.

About them both being the same, they basically are. Both parties are basically aristocratic in nature at the national level. But at least he would be prevented from doing as much **** because he'd have to maintain the Democratic party line.

[an0n]

How many guys were there? Besides yourself?

Two. And they were a gay couple who thought it was a Lesbian Alliance parade.

The rest was just a bunch of single, middle-aged women going through menopause.

[Rictor]

The Democratic party line has been slipping for many years now. All they have to do is avoid quoting the Bible during public speeches and not wear big cowboy hats, and they've got the people fooled. If there is something I've found out during ****'s time in office, its that what you say is everything, while what you do is meaningless. When a politicians goes and says something, the people don't care if they do the exact opposite, cause as soon as the words are spoken its like the policy has already been implemented to the letter. Same thing with the Democracts. In people's mind, the Dems stand for certain things. Abortion, social services, no war, healthcare, race and gender equality, that sort of thing. Doesn't matter that they are 180 degress from where they're supposed to be, cause "they're the Dems, they're looking out for the poor. If we don't vote for Kerry, Dubya wins. And no one wants that". Pah. I maintain that it is the media who determined the Demoratic candidate. Out of the bunch, the one that is furthest right won. Anyone who actually stands for the values of that the Dems have traditionaly stood for, they're sidelined.

I may be ranting a bit here.

edit: Bob, I could recemmend a weekly column by Libertarian journalist Justin Raimondo, though I don't think you'de much like where the column is located. Been reading it for a year or so, and I was totally blown away to find out this guys used to run with Buchanan and even had a Libertarian faction within the GOP. I guess not all conservatives are evil, though you'de never hear me say that out loud....

[an0n]

Liberalism doesn't work.

It's about as effective as democracy.

[Grey Wolf]

My personal political beliefs can basically be described as being both liberal and libertarian. Basically, within reason, you can do whatever you want with your money and your life as long as you don't mess with  anyone else. Of course, that is another idea that wouldn't work in the real world....