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Offline Knight Templar

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Well, one would have to guess that with the destruction of General Grievious' ship and the sudden arrival of more ships with Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker, the tide of the battle turned.


Right, you'd have to guess. But nowhere in the movie did they show more ships comming with Anakin n' Obi, nor did any of the Separatist ships attempt to protect Grievous' ship so much as they were spread out more or less engaging the Republic fleet one on one.

 I know the whole point of the battle was to get Anakin in a position to kill Dooku, but that still leaves the fate of all those pawns wide open and unexplained. Just because they are pawns doesn't mean they don't need to be explained either. Was it necesary to the plot to 'finish' the battle? No, not 100%, and that's why it was cut out (and stupid conceptions of time restrictions) but explaining it a bit would have made the movie that much more sensical, and thus, better.


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Anyway, the main objective of the Seperatists' attack on Coruscant was to kidnap Palpatine only. Not an invasion of it.


I wouldn't have known that had I not watched the Clone Wars cartoons, which, by the way, were a thousand times better than the prequel series. *shudder*
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Knight Templar, I believe George Lucas did include the fact that Anakin And Obi-Wan rushed back to help defend Coruscant and save the Chancellor right? In the opening scrolling text?
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Beats me. The scroll had me laughing at "WAR!"
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Beats me. The scroll had me laughing at "WAR!"

Oh yeah! Hahaha...."WAR!". Corny.

 

Offline Knight Templar

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Seriously. Like I couldn't figure it out on my own by watching the last movie, or the opening scene of this one...
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I agree, "War!" was high on the lameness meter.
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I wouldn't have known that had I not watched the Clone Wars cartoons, which, by the way, were a thousand times better than the prequel series. *shudder*

Didn't they explain what was going on in the opening crawl? They were there to "capture" Palpatine and the Jedi got word of this and rushed back to help? I don't remember.

 

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Yes.
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The entire part with Grievous could've been taken out. Should've been taken out. He was just a filler because Anakin needed to kill Dooku. And eye candy. But personally, I would've preferred a movie that felt more complete to Grievous' silly fighting. At first he seemed cool, then he came off as rather lame as Obi-wan lopped all of his arms off in short order.
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I know, anyone who breaks a window and jumps out into space to escape and kills Jedi for fun is too cool to "go out like a punk."
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Quite disappointing really.

In the animated series of Clone Wars, General Grevious was 1000 tiimes more cool and deadly than the one in Episode 3.

In the animated series, he killedhow many Jedi? 6? Not counting those that he has killed but not mentioned or shown in the animated series.

 

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Just saw it. Overall I was impressed. There were cheesy parts, but that's no different than the originals.

Am I the only one left with the distinct impression that Darth Plagueous' ability to coax the midochlorians (ugggh) to create life is oddly similar to Anakin's conception?

That Palpatine was *very* eager to see Vader eventually surpass him as Dark Lord of the Sith?

That Palpatine was Plagueous' apprentice?

That Palpatine may in fact be Anakin's father? In the sense that he used the force to create the perfect apprentice? Perhaps manipulating events to allow for things to unfold as they did?
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Unless of course that whole bit was a lie created just in order to get Anakin to turn to the Dark side.
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The truth is always the best lie. Any Sith Lord worth his or her salt knows that :p
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Yes,trying to decern truth from the lie can lead one around in circles if the lie has any truth to it. Probably Anikan was so confused by it all couldn't tell the difference:lol:
As for Grevious,he was still suffering from the encounter with Mace in the cartoon series, if he faced Obi One at 100% health then the outcome might have been different.
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Ace: That's an interesting theory. After the movie though, I don't think I'd give Lucas that much credit. Coincidence, I think.

Re: Grievous: I haven't seen all of the Clone Wars myself, so I don't know why Grievous has a heart and such, or why he was sick (Mace?) but my dad pointing something out actually, that I missed.

He mentioned that he saw Grievous to be a sort of reverse Anakin, in that he thinks that the heart and the eyes meant that he was at one time an actual person at one time, perhaps messed up, beyond even Anakin's threshold.

Of course, then there's me who just thought that he had a heart so as to be able to have an organic brain, allowing him to think on his own more, maybe give him some connection with the Force. Or just to look neat. Either way, he was way pansy compared to what Clone Wars eps I've seen.
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so whats the word on plans for episodes 7, 8, and 9. they better hurry before harrison ford retires.
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^CANCELED!

AFAIK
actualy, mabye not.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Beats me. The scroll had me laughing at "WAR!"


Why bash this film for every single flaw you can find? What's so special in this 'WAR!'? It rather explained the situation in one word than in a long and customary 'The Galaxy has once again been burning of the horrors of war' sentence.

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so whats the word on plans for episodes 7, 8, and 9. they better hurry before harrison ford retires.


Harrison Ford is too old to become Han Solo again. Not to talk about Carry Fischer or Mark Hamill.
New actors would be needed, but Lucas does not want to make the Thrawn trilogy with new actors.

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Just saw it. Overall I was impressed. There were cheesy parts, but that's no different than the originals.

Am I the only one left with the distinct impression that Darth Plagueous' ability to coax the midochlorians (ugggh) to create life is oddly similar to Anakin's conception?

That Palpatine was *very* eager to see Vader eventually surpass him as Dark Lord of the Sith?

That Palpatine was Plagueous' apprentice?

That Palpatine may in fact be Anakin's father? In the sense that he used the force to create the perfect apprentice? Perhaps manipulating events to allow for things to unfold as they did?


Wait until the film comes out on VHS, too. As soon as it happens, the official databank at www.starwars.com will be updated.

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In the animated series of Clone Wars, General Grevious was 1000 tiimes more cool and deadly than the one in Episode 3.

In the animated series, he killedhow many Jedi? 6? Not counting those that he has killed but not mentioned or shown in the animated series.


It's because it was a cartoon. Episode III, on the other hand, is a film.
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i can see mark hamil and harrison ford, just set the movie a few decades down the road. but Carry Fischer needs to loose some weight :D
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Maybe Carry Fischer can be the fat slug that gets strangled to death this time round... :p

Harrison Ford isn't old enough to miss out on one last Indiana Jones Movie it would seem...