[Sushi]

I think that looks pretty damn good.
Glowmaps next!

Agreed.

But what changed in the aft part? The only difference I can see is the sphincter-like missile launcher (which looks good).

[Aardwolf]

I think (still) that the arms need a more firm-looking attachment to the hull.

[Snail]

I don't like the orifice/sphincter-thing... It makes the ship look too organic. I think we can all agree that we've had enough of giant space bugs...

[Rodo]

looking good 


Have you ever wandered how would the Cain look with a blue glowmap? I just watched at the clean texture and I think it would look awesome (not proposing the mvp one to be blue, ok?)

[Commander Zane]

There's a fairly large set of different colored Shivan ship maps, the blue ones look really good.
I'd imagine the HTL Cain / Lilith would look very nice in blue.

[Kolgena]

I don't like the orifice/sphincter-thing... It makes the ship look too organic. I think we can all agree that we've had enough of giant space bugs...

I echo this sentiment. We don't need sphincter-like structures on ships--less so ones that are a good 2 meters across. I think it would look better if it was an angular, very mechanical looking rocket launcher, and not something that looks like it's about to squirt missiles at me.

[Cobra]

At least it's ray-shielded... right?

[Solatar]

The missile launchers right now look closer to how they should look when they're destroyed.

I love this organic looking ship (get working on the other Shivan caps so they all match! ), but I'd like to echo some of the sentiments about the missile launcher. At a certain point you have to launch a physical missile, not some kind of organic goo. I think a more "metallic" launcher would be appropriate.

[Raven2001]

I don't want to jump on the missile launcher discussion bandwagon so I won't

What I think so far is that the texture is too dark overall (even for a shivan vessel), and most importantily, too uniform... not only it will look like a blob at mid/long range, but even worse you lost some of the great modelling detail you had before, because of the texture.
Detail wise the texture is really cool though, I just believe you forgot the "big shapes"

Try different shades of the grey, to better separate the various parts

[Commander Zane]

I think (still) that the arms need a more firm-looking attachment to the hull.

I thought the arms weren't attached yet as they were going to be destroyable.

I don't want to jump on the missile launcher discussion bandwagon so I won't

What I think so far is that the texture is too dark overall (even for a shivan vessel), and most importantily, too uniform... not only it will look like a blob at mid/long range, but even worse you lost some of the great modelling detail you had before, because of the texture.
Detail wise the texture is really cool though, I just believe you forgot the "big shapes"

I actually think it will retain its appearance of being a high-detail model because of the amount of texture work done to it. Having some more red glowmapping on the parts that are already done (Whether or not it is like the Cain already I need to check) would be nice, the missile port could be less organic looking but overall I think this work is superb.

[Raven2001]

You misunderstood me I think. I believe it is a very nice piece of work, and of corse it still looks high-poly.

What I was trying to say was that:
1. the texture is not complementing the model. Why make all that cool details in the model, if the texture makes them extremely hard to see?
2. The texture is too regular: its all the same material, makes "reading" the model somewhat difficult (this is also tied to 1). Look at the retail Cain: the diferent construction materials are obvious, they have different colors, different light reactions (1 material is more specular than other, etc). Even in a low poly model the Cain is extremely easy to read and understand, due to those separations of materials. This texture for the high-poly model doesn't have that.

But of course, in the end of the day, this is my opinion

[headdie]

You misunderstood me I think. I believe it is a very nice piece of work, and of corse it still looks high-poly.

What I was trying to say was that:
1. the texture is not complementing the model. Why make all that cool details in the model, if the texture makes them extremely hard to see?
2. The texture is too regular: its all the same material, makes "reading" the model somewhat difficult (this is also tied to 1). Look at the retail Cain: the diferent construction materials are obvious, they have different colors, different light reactions (1 material is more specular than other, etc). Even in a low poly model the Cain is extremely easy to read and understand, due to those separations of materials. This texture for the high-poly model doesn't have that.

But of course, in the end of the day, this is my opinion

As i understand things there is still texture work to do mainly the red highlighting on the main body

[c914]

... and that would be the end with mine body. I've tested it in game and it looks good
Heh... now debris, lods and other stuff that I hate doing.

I thought the arms weren't attached yet as they were going to be destroyable.

Yes, that is true. Arms are placed just for me that I could see how all parts look together.

[Snail]

The glowmaps on the central triangle are rather underwhelming.

[c914]

You're talking about nose?

[Snail]

You're talking about nose?

Yeah. On the original they're more red but here it's black. I think it'd look better if it had some highlights like the other arms.

[c914]

I like it as it is...

Here is compromise - a little glow:

[Vasudan Admiral]

Oh wow - very impressive work dude.

[Commander Zane]

DO WANT NAO!

I do think the nose could use a little more red to follow the original glowmap.

But this is abso-freaking-lutely amazing, great freaking job.

[Kolgena]

O.O

I'll take it