[killadonuts]

Originally posted by Kellan
"Religion...is the opiate of the masses" was a quote from Karl Marx, not Hitler! A little diametrically opposed in ideological terms...

Okay so I was wrong about that quote.
But I do know that Hitler opposed any religion.

[Kellan]

Originally posted by killadonuts

Okay so I was wrong about that quote.
But I do know that Hitler opposed any religion.

Hitler was brought up as a Catholic, but was not especially religious himself - he was an atheist, or at least an agnostic. However, he did found the Reich Church in Germany, designed to supplant the Catholic Church and deliver Nazi propaganda in the way the Church had delivered its messages for so long.

Instead of a bible, there was a Mein Kampf and a sword...so Hitler was in effect the writer of their holy text. He didn't oppose religion when it was an effective method of control.

[an0n]

Originally posted by killadonuts

Okay so I was wrong about that quote.
But I do know that Hitler opposed any religion.

Uh, no. Hitler opposed all:

• Gays
• Lesbians
• Jews
• Blacks
• Mexicans
• Jehovah's Witnesses
• Hindu's
• Budhists
• Sikh's
• .......

Hmm. I think it's just easier to say he wasn't specifically/particularly against any Christian (or variation) religion, Itallians or Japanese. He even started his own little religion called the German National Faith or something.

[killadonuts]

Hitler did not believe in religion.
Instead he used the Church to further bull**** the German people into thinking that he talks to God.
Again, religion is used here to control a bunch of people and maintain order.

[Kellan]

See above.

And yes, 5 million non-Jews were annihilated alongside them during the Holocaust, bringing the death toll to about 11 million. However, that pales when compared to 26-50 million Russian losses...

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Kellan


Really? Hmm, interesting. I'd always considered it a manufacture of Nazi propaganda. The only thing that I am wondering is if it's the whole "Irish people tend to have orange hair" type thing - thus they are a 'race'. Although you could say that they're racially Celtic.

For the record, I don't have orange hair.

Are you of Irish decent too? My family moved during the late 19th/ early 20th century.

[an0n]

Originally posted by killadonuts
Hitler did not believe in religion.
Instead he used the Church to further bull**** the German people into thinking that he talks to God.
Again, religion is used here to control a bunch of people and maintain order.

Wrong. He did not see himself as a God, just as conqueror of the world. And he had no beef with religion as long as it didn't screw with his control over the people of Earth.

[Kellan]

Originally posted by Zeronet

Are you of Irish decent too? My family moved during the late 19th/ early 20th century.

I'm truly a Briton, not English. I'm something like 50% English, 25% Irish and 25% Scottish. My surname is Regan, which is the name of an 11th Century Irish king, whose clan apparently all Regans and Reagans are descended from.

[killadonuts]

Originally posted by an0n

Wrong. He did not see himself as a God, just as conqueror of the world. And he had no beef with religion as long as it didn't screw with his control over the people of Earth.

Do some research.
And read my last post carefully:  I never said he WAS a God but rather he told the German people that he TALKS to him.
Thus control and order is maintained.

[Kellan]

Originally posted by killadonuts

I never said he WAS a God but rather he told the German people that he TALKS to him.

Or that he would not interfere with their religion if it did not interfere with him, so to speak.

[Kamikaze]

Hey cool discussion

 I think that there is no reason that faith should govern ones life because it's not natural. If you left say, a baby in the woods would the child develop religion/faith to decide his actions? I think not. Rather, I think that the true decision-making in a human should be its logic, which is natural. Religion/faith is supernatural and well, odd

For the record I'm a liberal agnostic

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Kellan


I'm truly a Briton, not English. I'm something like 50% English, 25% Irish and 25% Scottish. My surname is Regan, which is the name of an 11th Century Irish king, whose clan apparently all Regans and Reagans are descended from.

If your ever in Ireland, visit Castle O'Dea .

[an0n]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
For the record I'm a liberal agnostic

Fascist atheism is much more fun.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by killadonuts
To put it simply:
Religion is nothing more than a primitive attempt at explaining what cannot be explained.
I grew out of those church lies at a young age.
Go ahead and flame me but it will only further prove my point that weak minds need religion to maintian sanity and a certain level of order.

Knowing that I'm nothing more than a very Intelligent ape does not bother me at all.
I accept nature, what I cannot control and what I can never know.
People who cannt accept these things have religion to fill it all in.

Remember this next time you pray to your god.
 

This is a good example of the inability to live and let live.
Ironically you show the best example of what you describe as a weak mind; you seek to venerate yourself above others by claiming that they are wrong since you know you are right. A lack of respect for what others believe and a closed mind means you can have no clear reasoning.

[killadonuts]

I know that post sounded kinda arrogant but it's just how I feel.
No disrespect was intended.  
I just wanted to give people something to think about

BTW I had expected a response like this one.
I'm glad it happened

[Zeronet]

Also in genetic terms, 2% is a larger difference than you might expect, so you are more than an intelligent ape. Magic is what is used to describe the unexplained. Religion, also it has caused wars, has caused many great things such as CAFOD. The 10 commandments set out how we should live our lives, if everyone followed them, the world would be a good place indeed. Not everyone does i know, but enough do to make a difference in the world.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Zeronet
Also in genetic terms, 2% is a larger difference than you might expect, so you are more than an intelligent ape. Magic is what is used to describe the unexplained. Religion, also it has caused wars, has caused many great things such as CAFOD. The 10 commandments set out how we should live our lives, if everyone followed them, the world would be a good place indeed. Not everyone does i know, but enough do to make a difference in the world.

You.......IDEALIST!

And for the record, the ape - man difference is about 1.6% if I remember correctly......or was it 0.6?

[killadonuts]

Keep in mind that I'm just telling things according to how I feel and know.
I could very well be talking out of my ass here.
You be the judge.

[an0n]

Originally posted by killadonuts
Keep in mind that I'm just telling things according to how I feel and know.
I could very well be talking out of my ass here.
You be the judge.

We would never be so blasphemous as to judge you.

[CODEDOG ND]

Originally posted by an0n

You.......IDEALIST!

And for the record, the ape - man difference is about 1.6% if I remember correctly......or was it 0.6?

Wrong, 2.67% for the human male, 3.02% for the human female.