[Shrike]

Originally posted by CP5670
Well, if you accept my statement there, they are for the masses. The intellectual elite of the world has more important things to do in their lives.

I think you'd be surprised how many of the 'intellectual elite' are married and have children.....

Hell, both my parents work at a university, dad is a PhD, mom is a Masters.  

[CP5670]

I think you'd be surprised how many of the 'intellectual elite' are married and have children.....

Hell, both my parents work at a university, dad is a PhD, mom is a Masters.  

Just about everyone has a Ph.D. these days; when I refer to the intellectual elite, I mean the true philosophers. (Aristotle, Neitzche, Hegel, etc.) Look at how many of those guys were married.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by CP5670
But you already agreed that god was basically just another human in terms of his mental capacity. Therefore, there is no reason why humans cannot achieve the same level of knowledge and power at some point in the future.

Uhm... refresh my memory - where did I agree that?

Originally posted by CP5670
It might be beyond my brain alone to understand, but then we have the entire thinking capacity of the future minds of humanity, which will come out to a transfinite amount. I may well conclude that at the moment this cannot be understood, but that in no way means that it will not be understood in the future with the progression of science.

Originally posted by sandwich
So given a theoretical situation where you had the opportunity and ultimate means to study the "inner workings", as it were, of a miracle in progress, what would you say if that miracle was inexpleciable? Given a theoretical capacity of your brain to understand the complete workings of science. Still unable to explain it. Now what?

Read carefully, please.

[Vortex]

Wow, this thread gained 100 posts in one day, freaky...

As the HLP turns... (old SW BB ppl will get it, but I guess that means almost nobody then lol...)

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by CP5670
Can't wait until Zylon and Top Gun get here; they will have a field day on this...

Feh. He's either trolling, or too stupid to bother with. "EVILution"?? Please.

Maybe he knows the guy who wrote this page...
http://members.aol.com/Savetele/

[HotSnoJ]

Wow, the Earth is in space. You know how long people have known that the Earth is probably in some greater medium? Far, far before biblical times, before even the Greek intellectual golden age.

You said "medium", I said void. There is a difference! A medium is when something is in something. The earth is not in something (space, but that isn't like air or water). It is in a void. We are in a medium, the air.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by CP5670
Well, if you accept my statement there, they are for the masses. The intellectual elite of the world has more important things to do in their lives.

Yeah, like finding ways to get hotter chicks.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by sandwich
Why can't humans cure people miraculously? Well, uhm... maybe because they aren't God?

Hey, I got an advertisement letter from a woman the other day - she claims to be able to cure any illness, predict your future, find your true love, and basically anything else you might want. Cool, eh?

(note: I'm joking, please don't take this seriously )

[Stryke 9]

Originally posted by hotsnoj


You believe in evilution, right? What is so scientific about it? No-one has ever proved that beyond a dout it's really true. www.drdino.com

Again read my article if you dare! freespace.0catch.com/articles/arguments_for_christianity.html

I dared. Mediocre at best- I've seen much better, and many were much nuttier and still better.

Think of it this way: You're arguing a point that cannot be defended by fact, logic, or any other human faculty except the same sort that makes people collect severed rodent feet, buy lottery tickets, and vote for imbeciles to make decisions on how they should live their lives. Moreover, your argument against the currently "opposing" point is that it cannot be proven without a shadow of a doubt. Ever hear of "doublethink"?

The truth is mutable and subjective- even if there was an objective "fact" or anything of the sort that everybody in the world could wholeheartedly and unequivocally agree with, we don't know it. So that argument can be effectively terminated. What this is, it's a logic argument, and thus is going to get boring fast unless somebody is open-minded enough to even countenance what everyone else has to say.

As for the rest of you, you seem to know what you're doing.

[Styxx]

Hey, I buy lottery tickets! What if by some random chance I win? The probability is small, but the possible gains more than make up for the small cost.

And, of course, there is The Plan™, but you're not ready to grasp it's scope...

[CP5670]

Read carefully, please.

I would say the same to you. The theoretical capacity of a transfinite number of brains in all of the future is similarly transfinite, and theoretically capable of anything. We operate as a civilization, not as individuals, when it comes to discovery of science.

Uhm... refresh my memory - where did I agree that?  

Well, you said that "we are lucky to have a god that thinks like us" or something to that effect.

As the HLP turns... (old SW BB ppl will get it, but I guess that means almost nobody then lol...)

hey I understood that...

Feh. He's either trolling, or too stupid to bother with. "EVILution"?? Please.

Heh yeah that part was just crazy.

You said "medium", I said void. There is a difference! A medium is when something is in something. The earth is not in something (space, but that isn't like air or water). It is in a void. We are in a medium, the air.

Again, you are simply picking at words for lack of a better argument. Of course there is a difference between a medium and a lack of a medium, but in the context that it was obvious that I meant that the "Earth exists in something bigger." People started thinking about this ever since they looked at the planets and stars in the sky, which goes back beyond any reliable records

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by CP5670

Well, you said that "we are lucky to have a god that thinks like us" or something to that effect.

Yes he might of said that, but how does that corallate with your statement about the lord being as intelligent as a human being? Being able to understand how something thinks does not bring your mental capacity down to the creature in question's level.

[Top Gun]

Originally posted by hotsnoj


You believe in evilution, right? What is so scientific about it? No-one has ever proved that beyond a dout it's really true. www.drdino.com

Again read my article if you dare! freespace.0catch.com/articles/arguments_for_christianity.html

 Did you know I can semi-prove that every religion (again except Judaism and maybe Islam) is false! Well they say that the earth rests on something like a tree. Well we all know today that that is just not true! We go back to Job 26, "He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing." There you go. The proof that the Bible knows what it is talking about.

I'm not even going to dignify that waste of server space with an answer. The stupidity speaks for itselsf.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by CP5670


Nothing can be proved to be true "beyond a doubt," by the first fundamental rule. For the purposes of absolute reality however, it has indeed been observed even today for it to become a viable explanation.
 

I think i could prove beyond doubt that i am indeed alive.

[Top Gun]

Originally posted by hotsnoj


You said "medium", I said void. There is a difference! A medium is when something is in something. The earth is not in something (space, but that isn't like air or water). It is in a void. We are in a medium, the air.

There's actually quite a lot of things in space (besides the earth) if you believe that satanic, secular science. Here's what the stars really are

"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind" (Revelation 6:13).

Nothing more than specs  of shiny specs of dust


Hey look! the earth is flat as well, the bible says so

"And the devil taking [Jesus] up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time" (Luke 4:5; see also Matthew 4:8)

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Maybe he knows the guy who wrote this page...
http://members.aol.com/Savetele/

What does one have to do with the other? Don't try to confuse things by bringing in random elements of web insanity, please - this discussion is staying more or less "sane", and I'd like to keep it that way - at least until we break the Road Trip record.

Originally posted by CP5670
I would say the same to you. The theoretical capacity of a transfinite number of brains in all of the future is similarly transfinite, and theoretically capable of anything. We operate as a civilization, not as individuals, when it comes to discovery of science.

Which is why I said a theoretical situation. In a way, I agree that, given enough time, humanity is capable of reaching currently incomprehensible heights of knowledge, etc etc. But that's not the point. The point is a theoretical situation where something beyond the "transfinite" occurs - call it magic if that helps you understand what I'm talking about. It's absolutely inexplecible by the transfinite capabilities of humanity, ok? Remember, this is a theoretical situation.

In spite of all the laws of nature, physics, elementary laws of the universe, Bob's Law of Nosepicking - nothing scientific can explain how that stomach shrunk or that leg grew, m'kay? You still with me in this theoretical situation?

Would you then be able to accept the existance of God?

Originally posted by CP5670
Well, you said that "we are lucky to have a god that thinks like us" or something to that effect.

Again, please quote me, as we both have written so much in this topic that it's very easy to confuse/forget things.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Top Gun


There's actually quite a lot of things in space (besides the earth) if you believe that satanic, secular science. Here's what the stars really are



Nothing more than specs  of shiny specs of dust


Hey look! the earth is flat as well, the bible says so

 

You're all talking about how religions need to change with the times ( )- yet you refuse to think for a moment about the world in which people lived in, or to be more precise, the words they didn't have to communicate with. Hardly any of the common scientific jargon that we're familiar with nowadays.

Plus, you should realize that the Bible is often written in poetic form.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by sandwich
...at least until we break the Road Trip record.

Hmm... I'll have to take steps to ensure you never reach that number of posts then...

[Top Gun]

Originally posted by sandwich
Plus, you should realize that the Bible is often written in poetic form.

Which is precisely the idea I'm trying to put forward to him, when he fails to see Genesis as anything less than the divine truth. By posting them, I'm giving him examples of what else he MUST believe in, should he choose to accept the Bible as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and showing him what a mind bogglingly stupid belief he holds

[Redfang]

Originally posted by Styxx


Hmm... I'll have to take steps to ensure you never reach that number of posts then...

 
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