[OverDhill]

Maybe in the future we can get someone to make us a Main Hall like the ones mjn.mixael has done

You are way too easily distracted by shiney things

Are you doing anything about the "Continue Campaign" to "Play Campaign" and "New Campaign" to "Select Campaign" suggestions I made of should I take a look myself?

*points over there*

Guilty as charged.   I just think those Main Halls are way cool thats all.   After all it this not a simulation 

Would it not be cool to be in C&C to select where to go?   

But its not going to happen.   

[OverDhill]

Total Conversion The Babylon Project 3.7.1 released!

Changes for 3.7.1

Added campaign The Emearon Incident
Fixed the Scripted Message Gauge
Fixed Achen Schooling Flight

0rph3u5 changes

- Aurora-variants A-O, for 1-4
- Interface files for the Loading Screen upgrade (v0.5)
- Table files for the Interface update
- Loading Screens for Earth Minbari War
- updated Missions for Earth Minbari War
- - disabled Loading Screens to opt-in the Loading Screen Update
- - added support for the maps
- - Mission 3: changed the language on the rtb directives
- - Mission 4: fixed the "Hold the Line"-directive to appear
- - Mission 4: added the Napoleon, Moscow and Birmingham to the escort list to better direct the player

[Nightmare]

Nice nice

[wesp5]

Cool! So OverDhill, did you get my last archive with all the single mission fixes?

[OverDhill]

Yes they are included

[wesp5]

Great ! Maybe I'll start on the Janus campaign tomorrow...

P.S.: I noticed that "Achen Flying School" is again on the campaign page, although it's only a single mission. I thought we agreed that this should be moved to the single missions page as a tutorial there, because the "Io Training Wing" has the same function on the campaign page being a real campaign! By using a trick and calling it "1o Training wing" we could make sure that it appears at the top of the list like the "Achen Flying School" before. With the current font the number can hardly be noticed !

P.P.S.: I found an even better solution than the one suggested above: If you enclose a mission name with * it will always appear first on the list, that way we could make sure that both "Achen Flying School" and "Io Training Wing" stand out in their section and player will recognize them as tutorials. I really think we should do that in case 0rph3u5 manages to create a Simulator button, because I for one would always start with single missions before taking on a campaign so I would need a tutorial there!

[karajorma]

I strongly suggest we don't use any of those sorts of hack to make the campaign appear first on the list. They always **** up the moment anything is changed.

If the mission really does need to be played before anything else, just make it the default campaign and include an explanation of how to change campaigns when it finishes.

[OverDhill]

As it stand the current 3.7.1 will not change for awhile.  When and if some worthwhile improvements are done there will be another release.  If any mission fixes are made please submit them and I will include them. 

I think we have done a good job of updating The Babylon Project for a new generation of players. 

Stay safe and healthy and have fun

[starlord]

Can trivial psychic transmit his version of in the beginning by any chance?

[OverDhill]

Can trivial psychic transmit his version of in the beginning by any chance?

Please elaborate

[starlord]

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I was wondering if trivial psychic could transmit the WIP version of den5’s “in the beginning” campaign.

[OverDhill]

I messaged him and he never got back to me

[tomimaki]

Any chance for better Hyperion and maybe other models from this post?

[wesp5]

I strongly suggest we don't use any of those sorts of hack to make the campaign appear first on the list. They always **** up the moment anything is changed.

As long as all campaigns and missions are sorted alphabetically, which I don't think can be changed, this will work. I also use it in my "The Dark Mod" Unofficial Patch!

If the mission really does need to be played before anything else, just make it the default campaign and include an explanation of how to change campaigns when it finishes.

That might work with the campaigns but not with the single missions...

[karajorma]

I strongly suggest we don't use any of those sorts of hack to make the campaign appear first on the list. They always **** up the moment anything is changed.

As long as all campaigns and missions are sorted alphabetically, which I don't think can be changed, this will work. I also use it in my "The Dark Mod" Unofficial Patch!

And then someone changes the font and it all gets messed up. No. Just don't hack it in the first place!

That might work with the campaigns but not with the single missions...

Why on Earth would a single player mission need to be first on the list anyway? If it's necessary for new players to play it first, stick a campaign file on and make it the default campaign. And if it's not, then it doesn't need to be first on the list anyway.

[wesp5]

And then someone changes the font and it all gets messed up. No. Just don't hack it in the first place!

Why would a font change alter anything? You mean somebody would use a font with not all characters? That would be bad in the first place as I bet a lot of special characters are used in the mission files...

Why on Earth would a single player mission need to be first on the list anyway?

This discussion started because "Achen Flying School" is listed as a campaign which it isn't. It's just a single mission which might confuse new players in regard of what a campaign is supposed to be! Also we have a real training campaign now, "Io Training Wing", and when 0rph3u5 suggested making single missions a seperate option in the main menu, my idea was to have a training mission in each of them. If everything stays like it is, we don't need any changes, but I would still prever "Achen Flying School" to be moved to the single mission menu.

[Nightmare]

I messaged him and he never got back to me

Maybe just try again? You just have to run after people if they don't reply.

[Trivial Psychic]

I've been a little reluctant to give it up... I started trying to convert it just before I was invited to join the mod team.  I haven't touched them since 2006 according to the last modified date of the files.

I started converting them and then learned about send-message-list sexp and decided to start from scratch again, using that.  Then I found out about the pit-falls of using them so I restarted using a few new skills I picked up, so I've got a few different sets of missions.  The only reason I'd include them if I pass the set along, is because I may have gotten further on the translations (that is managing to interpret what the poor Russian-to-English already in the missions actually meant to say) of some of the earlier incarnations of my missions than on the later ones.

The original missions used a specially modified Nova, including new textures, special weapons, and a stronger hull.  In the missions I just used texture replacement, some more powerful weapons from the existing pack, and the special hitpoints option in FRED.  The missions also used a Sathanas as a stand-in for a Shadow Vessel, but I switched it for the proper model.  The newer Nova model may require some new textures for the replacement, but SPOILER since the ship is basically a shadow Nova, someone may want to take a crack at actually modifying the model with more than a texture replacement.

[0rph3u5]

Spoiler:

there is a shadow nova in the ships list now

[OverDhill]

I am assuming that the 3.7.1 upload was successful as I have not heard any complaints