[Stealth]

Originally posted by ubermetroid


What I got out of #2 what that all the other "ones" merged with the sorce.  Also, Merv is an exile, a program gone bad.

But that is what I got out of it.

yeah, see, that's where my "theory" goes wrong...  the primary reason i thought that the Merivingian was a former "One" (apart from all the online theories) was because of Perciphone saying that she wants to remember what it's like (when she kisses Neo)... i thought, why would she ask Neo this?  why not someone else?  perhaps it's because the Merivingian was a "One", and she was the equivalent of Trinity, the Merovingian's lover, and she wanted to remember what it was like to kiss (the One?).  i'm not sure.  also the Merovingian posesses the "Matrix hacking" skills that Neo does, in that he can look at the Matrix (while in the Matrix) and see the matrix code (green symbols)... so far we know only Neo can do this, and he developed that skill... so the Merovingian can too?  I dunno, but you may be right, he may not (and probably isn't) a former "One"

[an0n]

And I'd like to point out that I was right. There was no deeper meaning to the incidents of Reloaded and Revolutions. It was all just a nice, simple little all-out war. No second Matrix. No robot-people. Just people fighting machines.

[Stealth]

at first I was quite certain that french accentguy was a previous incarnation of Neo. This is why Monica Belucci says that he was once a lot like Neo and wants to kiss him (as she then must be Trinity v5); but the Merovingian says that he survived Neo's predecessors, surely he couldn't be including himself in that list?



LOL what i love doing is going back now and seeing what everyone "predicted" Revolutions would be about and how it would end.  here's one that cracked me up:

Now this is just something that is a hunch. Probably a bit stupid but i'll throw it out there for all the people to mull over. ... Neo more machine like, Smith more human. The fight is no longer between man and machine. But identity. Prophescy is been blown apart and the war will destroy both man and machine is the answer isn't found. The death of both chosen ones. Thats right. Two. Smith and Neo must die to save the whole. As i said not thought through, and probably a bit stupid but i have this gut feeling.

Dan

This guy hit it right on the head months before Revolutions came out  and he seems more sure then of the Matrix than we do now after watching the 3rd movie .  but this is the funniest part... look at this reply that came after it:

there's no way Neo will be dead by the end of all this.

hahahaha.  woo... awesome

EDIT:
here's another good one:

I've got four words for y'all:

Trinity is The One.

Think about it....

-Stephen

in reply:

But if Trinity was meant to fall in love with The One, does that mean that she's a narcissist?

Think about that, dumbass.

HAHAHAHAH you guys should do this, it's awesome to see everyone in the dark lol


here's another guy's rendition:

... {about 2 pages of Matrix theory here}... That is just the real basic stuff obviously, but let's face it. It is only one movie. For these people who think that there will be time for 8 or 9 new twists, they need to take a lesson in realism. There will be a giant twist in this movie, but there won't be 4 or 5. The twists will come with the Meregivinian and what he is, with the connection between Smith and Neo, and then with the fates of the previous anamolies and Zions.

Bottom line: after projected box office returns of over $700 million, Larry and Andy Wachowski could pull a Wizard of Oz on us and laugh all the way to the bank.

Wizard of Oz: Neo wakes up in his office right after his boss yelled at him in the first movie for being late. Agent Smith turns out to just be a representation of his boss in the dream. (Look at the way the boss says "Mr. Anderson")

This would be the worst thing that could ever happen in many people's lives. And suicides among computer nerds would go up 462%. Keanu Reeves would never act again, the Wachowski's would be beaten retarded by the legions of Bill Gates, and the only person to come out ahead of the game will be Carrie-Anne Moss because she will still look hot in her dominatrix outfit.

Look particularly at the bottom paragraph. hahaha lol


here's one more.  after seeing the movie, someone says:

What an anti-climax. No questions were answered, no decent fight sequences, no point. I cant believe they ended it that way, what is it a love story!? i cried, im not joking, they spoilt a fantastic idea with their hippy (and obviously canadian) ideas of love, peace and hope. WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT THAT RUBBISH! i wanted a well thought out ending, i got a kick in the nuts. Dont talk to me about movies again, ill never be excited about another movie again.....
£5.00 i paid for that movie! I bunked Sociology and English to watch it at 2pm and if i fail in lfe its all the waschowskis fault!

so some canadian takes offense to that (obviously):

id like for [you] to shut the **** up
talkin **** about canadians
stay in your ugly deadbeat dirtytooth society
and the answers were there
and quite obvious but
your a fagget who was just pissed off because
you couldnt go home and wack off to neo and trinity having sex again

and your a dirty homo

HAHAHA.  this is hilarious

[Joey_21]

I fricken loved every bit of it. Tied up everything nicely for me.

On a related note: http://www.darc.net/article.php?story=20031106073153116

[Turnsky]

meh, i'm gonna see it tonight, i'll draw my own opinions on it, because quite frankly, I DON'T CARE whether you like it or not, or whether some old fart of a critic liked it or not, whether I like it or not, THAT'S what matters..

[Liberator]

Been back about 2 hours now.

I kept getting different vibes.  During the Dock Defense sequence, after the main Sentinel force breaks through and are "oozing" around mangling anything that moves, I kept feeling that they were the Army of Hell at the battle of Armageddon.  

As far at the Neo/Smith fight, I won't make a jesus analogy, instead I kept see the Archangel Michael fighting with Lucifer over the fate of Heaven and Earth.

And at the end, when Neo was carried off the field, it was more Arthurian than anything else.

Overall, taken by itself, as an action movie, it's fairly successful, even if it does get kind of Dragonball Z'ish at the end.  I mean, really, I was half expecting a KA-MAE-HA-MAE-whoa!

I enjoyed it though, and the ROTK trailer was great on the Big Screen even though I've seen it before.

[Drew]

the first half was as boring as sh**... it had crappy dialog, corny acting, and the story was stupid and dumb. There wasnt much in there that explained anything that happend in the prequels (or anything that happend, period.)
however, the last half really amazed me. That battle sequence in zion i was like

the Neo v Smith was a bot annoyiung tho, nothing eyepopping there. it just dragged onn... and on... and..... on....


AND WTF WAS THE TRAINMAN EVEN IN THERE FOR??????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beatspete]

Originally posted by an0n
Nice reasoning skills there.

The Oracle stated that Smith was the opposite of Neo.


Anyway, its not about binary maths or anything, its about what we have seen in part 2.  Useless programs are deleted.  When smith absorbs neo, smith (as his opposite) becomes useless and is deleted.

[Stunaep]

Noone has answered my question yet. If there has been seven other incarnations of Neo, there also has to be seven other incarnations of Smith. How were they defeated?

[Levyathan]

What makes you think there have been seven other Smiths?

(No matter this is the sixth Matrix, so there could only have been five versions....)

[Dark_4ce]

I think this time it was different. And there was no Smith in the earlier ones. But I can be wrong.

[beatspete]

But the previous 'ones' weren't as powerful as this one.  The merlveng.. says so (ie, you have some skill, you predacesors had more respect).  Smith might not have been as powerful either.

[Descenterace]

The Agents in the previous versions of the Matrix were different, too.  The Merovingian has a whole zoo of them.  So Smith wouldn't even have EXISTED in the previous Matrices.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Levyathan
What makes you think there have been seven other Smiths?

(No matter this is the sixth Matrix, so there could only have been five versions....)

Because there was now. And consider the One program was pretty much the same every time, there should have been a -One as well every time.

[Singh]

Just saw the movie. Thoughts-

For the half hour action scene, i swear i didn't blink (i was right in the front row) incredible action, maybe a bit too fast, but possibly the best last stand battle i've seen till today. The scene with the Hammer coming in and crashing was ultra cool as well :tup:

The french guy and the trainman were both nice additions to the story, and the Sati child and indian parents also added diversity to an otherwise mostly american show.

The last part.....it was confusing. It seemed like when Neo seemed to give up during the end, the machine 'overlord' as it were, took over and killed the smiths somehow. The scene towards the end was quite confusing, when the machines took Neo's body away- this is a deep plot....something.

Although it seems just like a fight of good vs evil, one must consider that it is a rather unique battle of good vs evil, where both get annihalated and only a mixture of something in-between gets left behind (especially when the architect referred to whether he was human)

[übermetroid]

Originally posted by Devils_Hitman
Also, why is there a matrix!!, machines can survive in space, why they **** dont they go up there and make a big solar array?

Did you notice when the hovercraft went through the nanobot clouds it lost all power?  The Machines probbly could not make it past the cloud layer either.

Originally posted by Devils_Hitman
lol, or just use fission.

It is stated that human body heat is the most efficient power sorce the machines can come up with.  And I would think they know about nukes and fission.

[Dark_4ce]

I didn't know those clouds were made out of nanobots? COOL! Makes sence then with all that lighting. of friction.

And on powersources, I think the bots decided to use humans as power source just becuase they were sadistic bastards and felt it poetic justice that humans would spend the next thousand years under their thumb!

[diamondgeezer]

*stands in APU screaming 'RELOAD!'*

[Ashrak]

i for one like it..... lotsa fighting story is nonexistent but i lovet the fighting

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by Stunaep
Because there was now. And consider the One program was pretty much the same every time, there should have been a -One as well every time.

It was not the same every time. This time was different, and that's why the Matrix didn't simply reload to restart the cycle.

Basically, two things went different this time. One of them is Trinity, the reason why Neo didn't simply choose the door that leads to the Source and to the reload of the Matrix. The other is Smith. If there was no Smith, Neo wouldn't have been able to make a deal with the machines.

This brings me to an interesting point. The Merovingian can't be a former One. Notice how Persephone makes clear that in the past she and the Merovingian were in love, like Neo and Trinity. Also notice how the Architect says that Neo is the first One to feel the attachment to the species in a specific manner - Trinity.